[Laci1959]

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I tried it with both the original vehicle and my own. They're both stuck. What is terribly strange is that all the axles of a motor car are spinning, even though they should not be. The eng is made and the running wheels have no animation as described in https://steam4me.net.
I can’t reach the speed required to shift in 3rd and 4th gear. Neither for the test vehicle nor for my own motor car.

Wagon section:

	ORTSLengthBogieCentre ( 0 )		Comment ( " hossza a forgóváz központok között " )
	ORTSLengthCarBody ( 11.88m )		Comment ( " Ütközők közötti hossz, később talán ütköző hüvelyvégek közötti hossz " )
	ORTSLengthCouplerFace (	11.93m )	Comment ( " kinyújott csavarkapocs középtől kinyújtott csavarkapocs középig " )
	ORTSNumBogies ( 1 )			Comment ( " forgóvázak száma az autóban. " )
	ORTSWheelFlangeLength ( 0.02m )		Comment ( " A kerékperem hossza a karima hossza a maximális peremszög kezdetétől kezdve egészen addig a pontig, ahol a karima szöge 26,6 fokra csökken." )
	ORTSMaximumWheelFlangeAngle ( 61deg )	Comment ( " A kerékperem szögét úgy határozzák meg, mint a kerékperem maximális szögét a vízszintes tengelyhez képest. " )

	ORTSNumberAxles ( 2 )			Comment ( " Futó kerekek száma " )

	ORTSAdhesion (
		ORTSCurtius_Kniffler ( 7.5 44 0.19 0.7 )
		Wheelset (
			Axle ( 1
				ORTSInertia ( 1200 )
				ORTSRadius ( 0.46 )
			)
		)
	)

Engine section:

	ORTSDieselEngineMaxPower ( 88kW )

	DieselEngineIdleRPM ( 300 )
	DieselEngineMaxRPM ( 1000 )
	DieselEngineMaxRPMChangeRate ( 50 )
	DieselEngineSpeedOfMaxTractiveEffort ( 5mph )

	ORTSDieselTransmissionType ( Mechanic )

	ORTSGearBoxType ( B )
	ORTSMainClutchType ( Friction )
	ORTSDieselEngineGovernorRpM ( 1350 )
	ORTSGearBoxFreeWheel ( 1 )

	GearBoxOperation ( Manual )
	GearBoxNumberOfGears ( 4 )

	GearBoxMaxSpeedForGears ( 15.5kmh 24.8kmh 35kmh 53kmh )
	ORTSGearBoxTractiveForceatSpeed ( 45kN 28kN 20kN 13kN )

	ORTSEngineBrakeReleaserate ( 0.95bar/s )
	ORTSEngineBrakeApplicationrate ( 0.95bar/s )
	ORTSBrakePipeChargingrate ( 1.8bar/s )
	ORTSBrakeServiceTimefactor ( 1.8 )
	ORTSBrakePipeTimeFactor ( 0.004 )

	ORTSNumberDriveAxles ( 1 )
	ORTSDriveWheelWeight ( 11.2t )

[steamer_ctn]

Laci1959, on 18 February 2022 - 12:25 PM, said:

I tried it with both the original vehicle and my own. They're both stuck. What is terribly strange is that all the axles of a motor car are spinning, even though they should not be. The eng is made and the running wheels have no animation as described in https://steam4me.net.
I can’t reach the speed required to shift in 3rd and 4th gear. Neither for the test vehicle nor for my own motor car.

Can you provide the LOG files for both runs.

Can you also run with the latest patch file for the Unstable version.

[Laci1959]

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This is a log file for Open Rails. Please include this file in bug reports.
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Date/time = 2022.02.18. 20:51:38 (2022-02-18 19:51:38Z)
BIOS = BIOS Date: 12/07/15 11:54:31 Ver: 28.01 (American Megatrends Inc.)
Processor = Intel® Core™ i5-4460 CPU @ 3.20GHz (4 threads, 4 cores, 3,2 GHz) (CPU Internal L1 256 KB) (CPU Internal L2 1024 KB) (CPU Internal L3 6144 KB)
Memory = 7,9 GB
Video = NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 (4,0 GB RAM) (nvlddmkm 10.18.13.5906)
Display = \\.\DISPLAY1 (1920 x 1080, 32-bit, primary, 0 x 0)
Display = \\.\DISPLAY2 (1920 x 1080, 32-bit, 1920 x 0)
Sound = NVIDIA High Definition Audio (nvhda64v 1.3.34.4)
Sound = Realtek High Definition Audio (rtkvhd64 6.0.1.7354)
Sound = Bluetooth Hands-free Audio (btwaudio 6.5.1.2900)
Sound = Bluetooth Audio (btmaud 3.0.1304.328)
Sound = NVIDIA Virtual Audio Device (Wave Extensible) (WDM) (nvvad64v 1.2.40.0)
Disk = C: (Local Fixed Disk, NTFS, 127,0 GB, 26,0 GB free)
Disk = D: (Local Fixed Disk, NTFS, 402,2 GB, 179,5 GB free)
Disk = E: (Local Fixed Disk, NTFS, 402,2 GB, 295,0 GB free)
Disk = F: (CD-ROM Disc, )
Disk = G: (Removable Disk, )
Disk = H: (Local Fixed Disk, NTFS, 1863,0 GB, 1359,5 GB free)
Disk = I: (Removable Disk, FAT32, 14,4 GB, 0,8 GB free)
Disk = J: (Removable Disk, FAT32, 14,4 GB, 1,2 GB free)
Disk = K: (CD-ROM Disc, )
Disk = L: (Removable Disk, FAT32, 57,7 GB, 23,8 GB free)
OS = Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit (6.1.7601)
Runtimes = 2.0.50727 SP2 3.0 SP2 3.5 SP1 4 Client 4 Full 4.0 Client
Runtime = 4.0.30319.42000 (64bit)
\\.\DISPLAY1 = NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970
\\.\DISPLAY2 = NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970
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Version = U2022.02.12-2221
Build = 0.0.8078.40473 (2022-02-12 22:29:06Z)
Logfile = C:\Users\Laci\Desktop\OpenRailsLog.txt
Executable = RunActivity.exe
Argument = -start
Argument = -explorer
Argument = D:\Open Rails - CTN Test Route\ROUTES\au_ctn_test_route\PATHS\curve_up.pat
Argument = D:\Open Rails - CTN Test Route\TRAINS\CONSISTS\Valto_Proba.con
Argument = 12:00
Argument = 1
Argument = 0
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ActRandomizationLevel = (user set) 3
ActWeatherRandomizationLevel = 0
AdhesionFactor = (user set) 100
AdhesionFactorChange = (user set) 0
AdhesionMovingAverageFilterSize = 10
AdhesionProportionalToWeather = (user set) True
Alerter = False
AlerterDisableExternal = True
AntiAliasing = (user set) 3
AuxActionEnabled = False
AvatarURL = http://openrails.org...pport-logos.jpg
BrakePipeChargingRate = 21
BreakCouplers = False
CarVibratingLevel = 0
ConditionalLoadOfDayOrNightTextures = (user set) True
CorrectQuestionableBrakingParams = False
CurveSpeedDependent = False
DataLogger = False
DataLoggerSeparator = comma
DataLogMisc = False
DataLogPerformance = (user set) False
DataLogPhysics = False
DataLogSpeedUnits = route
DataLogStart = False
DataLogStationStops = False
DataLogSteamPerformance = False
DataLogTrainSpeed = False
DataLogTSContents = 1, 1, 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0
DataLogTSInterval = 10
DayAmbientLight = 20
DebriefActivityEval = False
DebriefEvalFilename = OR-DebriefEval.txt
DebriefTTActivityEval = False
DirectXFeatureLevel = (user set) 10_0
DisableTCSScripts = (user set) True
DistantMountains = True
DistantMountainsViewingDistance = (user set) 10000
DoubleWire = False
DynamicShadows = (user set) True
ExternalSoundPassThruPercent = 50
FullScreen = False
GraduatedRelease = False
HotStart = True
IsModeActivity = True
Language = (user set) en
Letterbox2DCab = False
LODBias = (user set) 100
Logging = True
LoggingFilename = OpenRailsLog.txt
LoggingPath = C:\Users\Laci\Desktop
Menu_Selection = (user set) D:\Open Rails - CTN Test Route, D:\Open Rails - CTN Test Route\ROUTES\au_ctn_test_route, , , D:\Open Rails - CTN Test Route\TRAINS\CONSISTS\Valto_Proba.con, D:\Open Rails - CTN Test Route\ROUTES\au_ctn_test_route\PATHS\curve_up.pat, 12:00, 1, 0
ModelInstancing = (user set) True
Multiplayer = False
Multiplayer_Host = 127.0.0.1
Multiplayer_Port = (user set) 2150
Multiplayer_UpdateInterval = 10
Multiplayer_User = Laci
MultiplayerClient = False
MultiplayerServer = False
NoDieselEngineStart = False
NoForcedRedAtStationStops = (user set) True
OpenDoorsInAITrains = (user set) True
OSDCarsState = 1
OSDLocationsState = (user set) 3
OverrideNonElectrifiedRoutes = False
PerformanceTuner = False
PerformanceTunerTarget = 60
PrecipitationBoxHeight = 100
PrecipitationBoxLength = 500
PrecipitationBoxWidth = 500
PreferDDSTexture = (user set) True
PressureUnit = (user set) bar
Profiling = False
ProfilingFrameCount = 0
ProfilingTime = 0
ReplayPauseBeforeEnd = True
ReplayPauseBeforeEndS = 0
RetainersOnAllCars = False
ScreenshotPath = C:\Users\Laci\Pictures\Open Rails
ShadowAllShapes = (user set) True
ShadowMapBlur = True
ShadowMapCount = 4
ShadowMapDistance = (user set) 1000
ShadowMapResolution = 1024
ShowAvatar = False
ShowErrorDialogs = True
SignalLightGlow = False
SimpleControlPhysics = False
SoundDetailLevel = 5
SoundVolumePercent = 100
SpeedControl = (user set) False
SuperElevationGauge = 1435
SuperElevationMinLen = (user set) 130
SuppressConfirmations = (user set) True
SuppressShapeWarnings = True
TrackMonitorDisplayMode = 0
TTCreateTrainOnPoolUnderflow = True
TTOutputTimetableFullEvaluation = False
TTOutputTimetableTrainInfo = False
TTUseRestartDelays = True
TunnelResistanceDependent = (user set) True
Units = (user set) US
Use3DCab = True
UseAdvancedAdhesion = True
UseLargeAddressAware = True
UseLocationPassingPaths = (user set) True
UseMSTSEnv = False
UseSuperElevation = 0
VerboseConfigurationMessages = False
VerticalSync = False
ViewDispatcher = (user set) True
ViewingDistance = 2000
ViewingFOV = (user set) 60
WebServer = (user set) True
WebServerPort = 2150
WindowGlass = (user set) True
WindowPosition_Activity = (user set) 5, 43
WindowPosition_CarOperations = (user set) 12, 68
WindowPosition_Compass = (user set) 0, 0
WindowPosition_ComposeMessage = (user set) 0, 50
WindowPosition_DriverAid = 100, 100
WindowPosition_Help = (user set) 90, 19
WindowPosition_MultiPlayer = (user set) 100, 50
WindowPosition_NextStation = (user set) 0, 41
WindowPosition_Quit = (user set) 1, 61
WindowPosition_Switch = 0, 50
WindowPosition_TrackMonitor = (user set) 99, 8
WindowPosition_TrainDpu = (user set) 100, 50
WindowPosition_TrainDriving = (user set) 2, 97
WindowPosition_TrainList = (user set) 100, 70
WindowPosition_TrainOperations = (user set) 9, 57
WindowSize = (user set) 1920x1080
WindResistanceDependent = (user set) True
Wire = (user set) False
WorldObjectDensity = 49
YoungestVersionFailedToRestore = 0.0
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Mode = explorer
Route = AU CTN Test Route
Path = Curve Branch Up (D:\Open Rails - CTN Test Route\ROUTES\au_ctn_test_route\PATHS\curve_up.pat)
Consist = Váltó Proba (D:\Open Rails - CTN Test Route\TRAINS\CONSISTS\Valto_Proba.con)
Time = 12:00:00 (12:00)
Season = Summer (1)
Weather = Clear (0)
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Information: Found Microsoft .NET Framework performance counter RunActivity

Information: Found Windows Process performance counter RunActivity

Information: Allocation for 87 500 particles:

16 800 000 B RAM vertex data
2 100 000 B RAM index data (temporary)
16 800 000 B VRAM DynamicVertexBuffer
2 100 000 B VRAM IndexBuffer

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Warning: Cannot find D:\Open Rails - CTN Test Route\trains\trainset\CTN-Hunslet_500hp\ car sound file ..\..\common.sound\BrClass07\brclass07eng02.sms

Warning: Cannot find D:\Open Rails - CTN Test Route\trains\trainset\CTN-Hunslet_500hp\ car sound file ..\..\common.sound\BrClass07\brclass07cab02.sms

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Information: Game.ReplaceState(GameStateViewer3D) GameStateViewer3D

Loader: Time = 00:00:09.5805480 ms
Loader: Expected = 33 630 701 bytes
Loader: Actual = 33 613 959 bytes
Loader: Difference = -16 742 bytes (0,0 %)

Warning: Platform 'Curve Branch - Inside Road' is incomplete as the two ends do not match. It will not show in full in the Timetable Tab of the Map Window

Warning: Platform 'Curve Branch - Outside Road' is incomplete as the two ends do not match. It will not show in full in the Timetable Tab of the Map Window

Information: Game.PopState()

Here you go. I didn't see anything in it. True, it never froze, it just stopped and the wheels spun in one place. It was as if he had gone against an invisible wall. It doesn’t always freeze, I’d rather write that rarely. Not once on the TCN test track.

[Laci1959]

Even so, they stopped at the end of the straight where the left arc begins.

[Laci1959]

Hello

Peter is probably right about the track error. Relevant thread: http://www.elvastowe...414#entry282414
This confirms my experience that the CTN test track did not freeze in long straight lines, but after a while it simply ran out of strength.

Sincerely, Laci1959

[steamer_ctn]

Laci1959, on 19 February 2022 - 09:56 AM, said:

Peter is probably right about the track error. Relevant thread: http://www.elvastowe...414#entry282414

A patch has been added to the Unstable version that hopefully should correct the problem.

Laci1959, on 19 February 2022 - 09:56 AM, said:

but after a while it simply ran out of strength.

Depending upon the load this will be true.

As gears increase, so tractive force decreases, and depending upon the train load the tractive force for a particular gear may not be sufficient to maintain the train speed.

[Laci1959]

Helló.

Jó lett a sebességváltó. Nagyon köszönöm és gratulálok.
Egyszer leállt a motor a ORTSDieselEngineGovernorRpM beállítás miatt. A Train Driving Infó ablakban kiírta, hogy a motor leállt. Viszont a kibővített HUD ablakban az alapjárati fordulatszámot írta ki ( idle: 300Rpm ). Úgy gondolom hogy ez nem helyes.
Ha a ORTSGearBoxFreeWheel ( 0 ), akkor a fordulatszámnak csökkenie kell abban az ütemben ahogy a vonat lassul a fékezés hatására. Ha a kupplung szétválasztja a motort és a sebességváltót ( gear box ), akkor a fordulatszámnak nullának kell lennie.
Ha a ORTSGearBoxFreeWheel ( 1 ), akkor a motor leálláskor a kibővített HUD ablakban a fordulatszámnak nullának kell lennie.
Ez azért lenne fontos, mert úgy gondolom, hogy a Cabview RPM DIAL jellmzője a kibővített HUD-ból kapja az információt.
Amikor a jelenség előfordult nem csináltam mentést mert magyar beállítások voltak. Amióta át álltam az angol nyelvre, és a birodalmi mértékegységekre nem fordult elő.

Mi lesz a folytatás? További váltó típusok vagy az ORTSDieselEngines, ORTSTractionCharacteristics alkalmazása?

Tisztelettel Laci 1959

[mozdonyos]

Hello.

I would like to ask the developers about the gear change.

With the modification just released, vehicles with automatic transmissions are performing much worse or not at all compared to the previous ones.
Can the automatic transmission be expected to be developed in the foreseeable future?
Or maybe the automatic transmission should work according to the older edition?

I have lost many of my working hours now, my two developed locomotive types are also unusable, I am a little disappointed. ☹️

Thank you for your reply!

Best of luck!

[steamer_ctn]

mozdonyos, on 13 March 2022 - 01:46 AM, said:

With the modification just released, vehicles with automatic transmissions are performing much worse or not at all compared to the previous ones.
Can the automatic transmission be expected to be developed in the foreseeable future?
Or maybe the automatic transmission should work according to the older edition?

The new transmission that has been added is only for manual locomotives at the moment.

Existing automatic gearboxes should work the same as they have always operated. No changes have been made to them.

If you have tried to get the automatic gearbox working with the new changes, then I am not sure what will happen.

[mozdonyos]

Greeting!


It should work the same way, but it doesn't work that way.
It does not take into account the motor characteristics, the traction curve.
It counts traction from somewhere, but it doesn’t come out as a real end result.
After starting the engine, the turn undulates, jerks.

If I define the new parameters as automatic, the program stops and exits.