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The future of Open Rails A wish list for v1.6 Rate Topic: ***** 1 Votes

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Posted 28 December 2022 - 09:02 AM

View PostWeter, on 28 December 2022 - 08:59 AM, said:

Not mostly NG, but Polish or Checho-Slovakian new features.
Sitting there, based on 5-years dated source, they are excel in some functional, but deeply obsolete with rest.

Perhaps extra effort could be taken to reach out to the maintainers of these forks? You never know, perhaps they might be interested in advancing Open Rails...

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Posted 28 December 2022 - 09:06 AM

Yes, MSTS approach to water rendering is imperfect, incomplete and obsolete.
There is the sense for some global approach as skies, by default, with some localization possibilities (variations), available for particular routes.
Of course, small texture looks ugly even for iced water.

Definitely, fresh start is better.
Until that, we are able to use TSRE, with gratitude to pan Gadezky.

But language barrier too - here You are right.
These both sides of the same problem: degradation of education. That is not wanting to do both: learn foreign languages and deal with physics of trains, or even to install content manually, rather double click installer.exe, and wait until it will install and setup everything for you.

With some other MSTS communities, things are much worse: some have became a totalitary-like sects and leaders intentionally suppress any knowledge about ORTS successes, for retaining adepts. Declaring, it's not good program to use.

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Posted 28 December 2022 - 09:06 AM

View PostWeter, on 28 December 2022 - 09:02 AM, said:

Also, Scott Brunner have reasonably (IMHO) noted, that ORTS is anyway virtual layout, but not a real train's simulator.

True, but I have read some threads here on ET about how Open Rails is used in a few local railroad museums with custom built hardware to simulate real train cabs.


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With other MSTS communities, things are much worse: some have became a totalitary-like sects and leaders intentionally suppress any knowledge about ORTS successes, for retaining adepts.

Really? I didn't know about that... sounds pretty extreme and futile on the part of these sect-like communities.

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Posted 28 December 2022 - 09:13 AM

View PostWeter, on 28 December 2022 - 09:11 AM, said:

And as MSTS likely can't run on w11 machines (without tricks), it's becoming funny... And sad.
No new content for two years... Creators flea or retired.

Well said! This is why we need a new route editor that's easy to use, efficient and supports modern ORTS features. This is one reason why I chose Tauri to develop my new program because it is a breeze to create user-friendly interfaces with HTML and CSS rather than "low-level" system programming languages.

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Posted 28 December 2022 - 09:20 AM

Flea from leaders terror - for being free; or retire, being fatigued, disappointed, or lost sense of further creation.

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Posted 28 December 2022 - 09:23 AM

View PostWeter, on 28 December 2022 - 09:17 AM, said:

Scott told about "philosophy" of the game, not about human - machine interface variants.

Sorry, I have misunderstood your previous statement.

View PostWeter, on 28 December 2022 - 09:17 AM, said:

No wonder, if the current goal of 40+years old former trainsim-community leaders is power, but not game content development and players support.

Indeed. I wonder where it all went wrong... Thankfully ET has remained a very welcoming and friendly place over the years. http://www.elvastower.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif

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Posted 28 December 2022 - 09:35 AM

Simulators of layout and of real train have different philosophy.
No matter, whether You control the game from keyboard or natural driver's stand.
On some thread, mr. Brunner and mr. Cantu have shown that up very clearly.

ET - yes. The great place with gentleman's manners. And great trust and respect to every member.

Apart Sarkozy, Mark Knopfler is more pleasant Hungarian emigrant for me.

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Posted 28 December 2022 - 09:39 AM

View PostWeter, on 28 December 2022 - 09:28 AM, said:

Interest on trainsimming fade-out, interest to suppress and discipline other persons grown.
Power always spoils many people.

I would argue that the latter has always been strong, it suffices to look at the history of humans. Interest in trainsimming is indeed fading and even real life railroad employment is declining.

Edit: Here is a nostalgic video about what it was like to work for the railroad in Hungary 5 decades ago.

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Posted 28 December 2022 - 09:43 AM

To return to the main topic of this thread, are there internal discussions going on between the developers of OR regarding v1.6? The Trello board has not been updated yet to reflect the release of v1.5, and neither has the Launchpad bug tracker.

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Posted 28 December 2022 - 09:51 AM

That's so.
Generally, interest in any real and effort-demanding job fades.
Infantilism is growing - another reasonable consequence from Your phrase.
More easy to lay on sofa and poke to gadgets - now even not a notebook-PC
Mum will send money, delivery will deliver meal.

Maybe, some freelance work over I-net... But it's so boring... Let's have a fun instead.

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latter has always been strong

I mean concrete community leaders, changing their priorities with age.

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