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Posted 06 December 2022 - 12:39 PM

I believe that the 53ft has a tare of 4,88t and a maximum capacity of 32,5 t.

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Posted 07 December 2022 - 10:40 AM

The container weight management, as described here http://www.elvastowe...post__p__291153 , is now present in ORNYMG 135. Also the on-line manual has been updated here http://www.interazio...nual/index.html .

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Posted 08 December 2022 - 03:12 AM

Hi Carlo. Does the container test route need an update due to these new modiffications?

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Posted 08 December 2022 - 04:28 AM

If you don't want to set specific weights for some containers, there is no need for modifications to the ContainerDemo route/activity.
OR will consider all containers at the default load state of "Random", and will randomly assign to each container its default empty weight with 30% of probability, and a value from 30% to 100% of its max loaded weight with the remaining 70% of probability.
If you open the Consist Information HUD page, you will see that at every load/unload operation in the container station the weight of the relevant wagon increases/decreases.

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Posted 08 December 2022 - 05:26 AM

wait...
you can set specific weights to containers? in consists?

I have modified some consits:

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Posted 08 December 2022 - 05:43 AM

In the .con, .wag and .load-stations-loads-or files you can define the load state, which can be empty, loaded or random. So your .con file is correct. Consider that random is the default load state, so it can also be omitted in such files.
If you instead want to define specific empty and/or loaded weights for specific container types, you have to add the relevant parameters in the .load-or file of such container types.

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Posted 08 December 2022 - 07:12 AM

oh, I was thinking more on the specifing precise weights, if I want to take into account the loading charts of wagons.
Here's an example:
https://i.ibb.co/FmC34Lf/Image2.jpg

I have not sugested this soonner because:
1- I gather this can be a hard conditions to code
2- not everybody has access to this kind of detailed information for cargo

But this brings with some thoughts on further development of the feature:
- To make the random weight respect the wagon's cargo limits
- Have those limits defined in the wag file.
- Maybe even program the cargo diagram limitations on the wag file it self...

Here are some questions though.

When spawning a container with a randomn load, in a wagon.... afterwards, if I unload it... is that random weight preserved? does that container always mantains it's weight in the same simulation session?

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Posted 08 December 2022 - 07:21 AM

Yes, the container keeps its random weight up to the end of the game.

I am considering what would it mean to take into account the max weight that a wagon can carry.
I am also considering what would it mean to allow defining the precise weight of a specific container, instead of the load state.
No promises about what I will effectively do.

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Posted 10 December 2022 - 06:21 AM

The feature is now available also in Unstable release U2022.12.09-1336 .

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Posted 11 December 2022 - 05:43 AM

View PostCsantucci, on 08 December 2022 - 07:21 AM, said:

I am considering what would it mean to take into account the max weight that a wagon can carry.


The container load weight tested in Container Management works very nicely. Great job again, thanks! :sign_thanks:


Concerning "max weight that a wagon can carry", seems very difficult to me?
All containers (20ft/40ft/45ft Europe) may actually weigh max. 30480Kg.
"max weight" is then max. weight container(s) + Empty weight wagon in relation to the allowed max. axle load.
IOW, a 20ft container might weigh 30480kg on a 4 axle wagon, 1x 30480kg or 2x 25950kg on a "double wagon (= 3 axles)".
And the French "long wagon" then max. 4x 16100kg (or again a division of this).
That would mean that Container Management has to calculate the distribution for multiple container loads? And therefore also leave containers during the loading process if they are too heavy. (which is possible if it was brought with a different type of wagon or different combination...).

OK, I think the current way is already great, I wonder if the above is possible?

For the time being, simply lower the max. container weight in the load-or file (If necessary), after all, in reality, containers are not max. filled.........

Again, very nicely made! :cheers3:

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