Customized brakeman viewpoints
#11
Posted 23 October 2021 - 09:01 AM
Understood - thanks for the response!
:)
Regards,
Scott
#12
Posted 23 October 2021 - 09:04 AM
Let's imagine: we are at single locomotive:
Three cameras glued to front end and look forward, three-from opposite end look backward.
Then we begin set-back, but instead of selecting one of three rear cameras, we are pressing Alt-End.
What then?
Before, that only 6-cam was flipped, but now?
#13
Posted 23 October 2021 - 09:09 AM
Weter, on 23 October 2021 - 08:57 AM, said:
Passing tight curves shifts "the head" too far away.
Hence, if Carlo will be inspired with your offer, and new viewport will follow the same unit, but without "glue" that would be amazing.
Hi Weter,
I believe I came up with this “cheat” with my original LHR Mountain (I didn’t get it from anyone else) - way back in MSTS before ORTS (which only provided relative movement in turns) - and I’ve been using it ever since. I’ve never really had an issue where the head view seemed to swing unrealistically far from the cab - even through tight switches and such. I’ve built stubby short Consolidations and long and lean Mountains. For me - it works extremely well and is immensely satisfying.
That said - I’d gladly look at however you wanted to implement it.
I’d love to see similar on diesels - honestly - I never run electrics.
Thanks for the response.
Regards,
Scott
#14
Posted 23 October 2021 - 09:24 AM
Look at this ride report
I used passenger view of the first coach to explore its interior, and then have shifted it, for showing diesel from outside, then have "entered" it's cab.
After that, I have decided to start moving, but continued to use this view, as it is nicer, than 2d cab's night variant.
Then I was amazed, when train began oscillating (so car's and engine's movement didn't match): the feeling of the real head on the neck!
But, passing curve...
#15
Posted 23 October 2021 - 09:28 AM
Weter, on 23 October 2021 - 09:24 AM, said:
After that, I have decided to start moving, but continued to use this view, as it is nicer, than 2d cab's night variant.
Then I was amazed, when train began oscillating (so car's and engine's movement didn't match): the feeling of the real head on the neck!
But, passing curve...
Hi Weter,
These are a couple old videos from a while back I just had laying around.
I can make a better one demonstration tight switches and such.
That little bit of movement makes all the difference in the world.
Isolated Camera
https://youtu.be/toA9hzbMuEU
https://youtu.be/wG1LHl0atRk
Regards,
Scott
#16
Posted 23 October 2021 - 09:28 AM
So, the "head" shifted by less, then meter, but it was indeed too far, than in real drivers armchair.
That was not a sport aircraft with its 5G turns.
So, I believe, that in case of tender's end positioned cam, that is quite near steamer's booth - there will be no such issues certainly.
If you would, please follow this sequence:
http://www.elvastowe...post__p__271710
Furthermore, diesels have no tenders...
#17
Posted 23 October 2021 - 09:34 AM
Weter, on 23 October 2021 - 09:28 AM, said:
So, the "head" shifted by less, then meter, but it was indeed too far, than in real drivers armchair.
That was not a sport aircraft with its 5G turns.
So, I believe, that in case of tender's end positioned cam, that is quite near steamer's booth - there will be no such issues certainly.
Well, I'll go to give you the link now..
Hi Weter,
Yep - I can see how different car lengths could be a problem - a better solution would be as stated - just to isolate the camera without relying on separate car passenger views. If you really wanted to get fancy - we could introduce momentum like we have in Flight Sims.
Regards,
Scott
#18
Posted 28 October 2021 - 06:06 AM
#19
Posted 28 October 2021 - 08:20 AM
On some locomotives and many a caboose, I put a "5" view in the file...out on the rear ( sometimes front platform ) and note that in the display name ( for Consist editors )
#20
Posted 28 October 2021 - 01:23 PM
The standalone 6-camera would help to tell "true passenger view" from "general brakeman view", so first would be left at coaches only, and the latter may be present with any of rolling stoch units.