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Posted 25 May 2016 - 02:12 PM

View Postcr-stagg, on 25 May 2016 - 02:04 PM, said:

What line is it that you forgot to delete?

It was in source code.

View Postcr-stagg, on 25 May 2016 - 02:04 PM, said:

WHERE is this "new" download?

The same link. Download again. I added some more info while loading.

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Posted 25 May 2016 - 02:18 PM

View Postdforrest, on 25 May 2016 - 02:10 PM, said:

Charles, is it possible you should be entering "A:/1MSTS/Train Simulator" and not "A:/1MSTS"?

NO! I DO NOT use a Folder named "TRAIN SIMULATOR" for any of my 20 MSTS installations!!!

Now I get the same TSRE5 has stopped working error that others reported.

I guess this CE cannot handle 3500 Engines and over 5000 Wagons

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Posted 25 May 2016 - 02:25 PM

I can't fix eng/wag parsing bug without files causing it.

View Postcr-stagg, on 25 May 2016 - 02:18 PM, said:

I guess this CE cannot handle 3500 Engines and over 5000 Wagons

It is not it. My engine can handle thousands of files (standard case in RE). It is definitely something with wag/eng files.

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Posted 25 May 2016 - 02:27 PM

View PostGoku, on 25 May 2016 - 02:12 PM, said:


The same link. Download again. I added some more info while loading.


??? D/L is same version #

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Posted 25 May 2016 - 02:30 PM

No, i replaced zip file.

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Posted 25 May 2016 - 02:35 PM

View Postdforrest, on 25 May 2016 - 12:51 PM, said:

Consists containing a "#" character in their name are still not displaying the loco.


Resolved in the latest download. Thank you.

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Posted 25 May 2016 - 03:12 PM

View PostGoku, on 25 May 2016 - 02:30 PM, said:

No, i replaced zip file.

Let me get this straight you edited code and did not change the version number? Just replaced the ZIP file?

Great Configuration Management!

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Changed from main MSTS install to a mini route install and now it works.

Opened a Consist that had been Created with the MSTS CE. Saved it w/o editing. Found the second value for Consist MaxVelocity to be about one third of what the MSTS CE calculated it to be.

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Posted 25 May 2016 - 03:19 PM

View Postcr-stagg, on 25 May 2016 - 03:12 PM, said:

Let me get this straight you edited code and did not change the version number? Just replaced the ZIP file?

Great Configuration Management!

I didn't wanted to change the version number because it is Route Editor version number and there was no changes in it. I need to rethink the numeration.

View Postcr-stagg, on 25 May 2016 - 03:12 PM, said:

Changed from main MSTS install to a mini route install and now it works.

It would be nice if you could send me some 'broken' wag/eng files. Broken file is the last filepath in log before crash.

View Postcr-stagg, on 25 May 2016 - 03:12 PM, said:

Opened a Consist that had been Created with the MSTS CE. Saved it w/o editing. Found the second value for Consist MaxVelocity to be about one third of what the MSTS CE calculated it to be.

I know MaxVelocity is not right. I do not know right equation for it yet, but I will fix it later.

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Posted 25 May 2016 - 03:45 PM

View PostGoku, on 25 May 2016 - 02:25 PM, said:

I can't fix eng/wag parsing bug without files causing it.


It is not it. My engine can handle thousands of files (standard case in RE). It is definitely something with wag/eng files.


I have the same problem as cr-stagg.
In my installation I have 2351 eng, 10770 wag and 4154 con
When you load your editor compositions gives me errors, I have extracted the entire folders of 10 trains to another directory and continues to random errors.
I changed the large TRAINS folder to the folder where trains had 10 errors and assumptions editor loaded without error

I send some of the files allegedly caused the closure of the program

https://mega.nz/#!5F...Th-7vFZB8wL1P0I

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Posted 25 May 2016 - 03:56 PM

View Postxavivilla, on 25 May 2016 - 03:45 PM, said:

I send some of the files allegedly caused the closure of the program
https://mega.nz/#!lAAwhR6S

It wants a key from me to allow download.

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Posted 25 May 2016 - 04:39 PM

Well, an interesting start for sure.

Goku, after I finish typing this I'm going to prepare a zip file for you containing some .wags. You'll find it in a PM later today.

Some constructive feedback:

The display of the rolling stock in the large window is a pleasant surprise -- large and sharp. It can be improved by the addition of two features: (1) display the freight animation file too and (2) let the end user alter the background color. The black looks good in most instances but I've noticed when the model is also true black much of it just disappears. If setting our own background is too much then for myself I'd vote for a dark charcoal... just so long as it isn't pure black.

You're not picking up and reading the include files (I'll put some into a zip file for your testing).

Many of us have multiple directory installations (I have 16). It would be very nice to be able to change the target directory in the user interface instead of exiting and editing a text file.


Some questions:

I didn't discover any means to delete a .wag from the consist list. Has that code been done yet?

One of the filters is marked "Broken". What is that?

A majority of existing consists did not display all of the rolling stock. What causes you to skip a line in a .con file?

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Posted 25 May 2016 - 05:15 PM

View PostGoku, on 25 May 2016 - 03:19 PM, said:

I didn't wanted to change the version number because it is Route Editor version number and there was no changes in it. I need to rethink the numeration.

It would be nice if you could send me some 'broken' wag/eng files. Broken file is the last filepath in log before crash.

I know MaxVelocity is not right. I do not know right equation for it yet, but I will fix it later.


Well this time it loaded my Main Install. Same second try. Third time it stopped again. Attached is ENG file it stopped on.

Fourth time Stopped on same file. 5th time it opened completely.

Ran the ENG in OR. Log shows about 32 warnings like this:
Warning: Hierarchy element 1 out of range (expected -1 to 8; got -2) in distance level 1 in shape a:\1msts\trains\trainset\cp9001\cp9001.s
But no other Warnings or Errors for the ENG.

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Posted 25 May 2016 - 05:37 PM

I see that one can Edit the Name line and other items for the selected rolling stock item, BUT how does the edits get saved? I tried editing but the changes were not saved.

How does one change the colors used with the editor? Why change? Look at any of the screen shots in this thread and see how hard it is to see the drag bar to slide the lists up and down. The drag bars HAVE to be used as neither the up/down arrows nor the page up/down keys do not cause the lists to scroll.

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Posted 25 May 2016 - 06:00 PM

To add to Dave's Constructive Criticism:
First I second Dave's comments about the background color and the ability to change the Target Directory. I beta test for 3 different vendors and I maintain separate installs for each when testing rolling stock and make a mini install for each route that I beta test.

I notice after turning the object then selecting a new object the new object was oriented just like the previous one was left. Would be nice to have a reset button to reorient the item to the original position.

In the detail display of information for the item it would be helpful to display the Trainset folder name and filename for the item.

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Posted 26 May 2016 - 03:19 AM

View PostGenma Saotome, on 25 May 2016 - 04:39 PM, said:

The display of the rolling stock in the large window is a pleasant surprise -- large and sharp. It can be improved by the addition of two features: (1) display the freight animation file too and (2) let the end user alter the background color.

1. If you mean "Freightanim" second shape, it displays correctly in my all eng files.
2. OK. For now you can change the editor colors to white (or other system colors) by setting:
systemTheme = true
In settings.txt
http://i.imgur.com/BbXRZod.png

View PostGenma Saotome, on 25 May 2016 - 04:39 PM, said:

Many of us have multiple directory installations (I have 16). It would be very nice to be able to change the target directory in the user interface instead of exiting and editing a text file.

Window like in my Route Editor will be good enough?

View PostGenma Saotome, on 25 May 2016 - 04:39 PM, said:

I didn't discover any means to delete a .wag from the consist list. Has that code been done yet?

Select item in 3d view and press Delete key. Or go to View->Consist Units, select item and press Delete button.

View PostGenma Saotome, on 25 May 2016 - 04:39 PM, said:

One of the filters is marked "Broken". What is that?

You will find here consists with missing rolling stock.
http://i.imgur.com/CkMGk4G.png

View PostGenma Saotome, on 25 May 2016 - 04:39 PM, said:

A majority of existing consists did not display all of the rolling stock. What causes you to skip a line in a .con file?

It is because of eng/wag loading errors. In View->Consist Units should be all items. 3d consist view requires proper eng/wag files.

View PostGenma Saotome, on 25 May 2016 - 04:39 PM, said:

Fourth time Stopped on same file. 5th time it opened completely.

You mean it worked one time with your Main Install? If so, it means there is array overflow error while loading eng files and won't be that easy to find ENG file causing it.

View PostGenma Saotome, on 25 May 2016 - 04:39 PM, said:

I see that one can Edit the Name line and other items for the selected rolling stock item, BUT how does the edits get saved? I tried editing but the changes were not saved.

Filemane, total mass, eng mass etc can't be saved.

View PostGenma Saotome, on 25 May 2016 - 04:39 PM, said:

I notice after turning the object then selecting a new object the new object was oriented just like the previous one was left. Would be nice to have a reset button to reorient the item to the original position.

In the detail display of information for the item it would be helpful to display the Trainset folder name and filename for the item.

Ok, that's easy to do. I only need to find nice place for it.
.. but first the most important thing is to find eng/wag loading bug.

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