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File Name: Union Pacific #998 / #999 Baldwin DR-12-8-3000 Set
File Submitter: kelticsylk
File Submitted: 30 Jan 2009
File Updated: 28 Dec 2010
File Category: Early Diesels (Pre - 1960)
Union Pacific #998 / #999 Baldwin DR-12-8-3000 Set
UP998 Version 1.1
June 20th, 2009
Original model and Textures by Frank Musick.
Physics by Matt Imbrogno and Chuck Zeiler
Sounds by North American Locomotive Works
Cabview courtesy of Columbus Locomotive Works (Cameron Lashley and Verne Horton) modified and redistributed with permission
REVISIONS
Updated #999 with same fixes as #998. Added #999 to consist.
OVERVIEW:
This model of Baldwin Locomotive Works DR-12-8-3000 is part of a series of "Centipede" replicas created for MSTS. None of the series is 100 percent finished. Some of the units are what Microsoft likes to call "ALPHA" versions, which may be a unique way of getting out of trouble for producing buggy software. In my case it most definitely is. I don't have the skills required to complete all the various components of an MSTS model and some of the more obscure parts, like lighting, physics and sounds I have borrowed from the guys who really know how that needs to be done. Other models in the series, like this one, I still consider BETA. While the models may look half decent they may use parts or textures cobbled from more complete versions without being as integrated as they should be. They are being "released" with fair warning that they need further testing and development, but are still a bunch of fun to run in the sim.
SOME HISTORY:
Among the largest diesel locomotives built by any manufacturer, 2 of these 3000 horsepower giants were ordered by the Union Pacific Railroad in 1947 as a drawbarred set. Each unit was 91 feet long with a total weight of 409,000 pounds (almost 205 tons) carried on 24 wheels, 16 of which were powered by 750 horsepower traction motors. With 102,000 pounds of tractive effort these units would have been the largest and most powerful diesels on the UP. It was not until 1966 that any other manufacturer offered anything close to the size and power of a set of DR-12's
Union Pacific cancelled the order before delivery. The units were painted blue and cream and became the Baldwin Locomotive Works demonstrators. In this capacity the pair was tried by several railroads, notably the Bessemer & Lake Erie, Baltimore & Ohio and the Chicago & Northwestern. Baldwin stored the set within a year after the demonstrations failed to attract any new orders. The units were scrapped in 1952 after being held in storage as part of steam turbine project that never materialized.
This model of #998 / #999 attempts to represent the set as it might have appeared in 1948 had the Union Pacific NOT cancelled the order. While it is not known by the author whether the Union Pacific intended to run the set as one 6000 HP locomotive, standard practice on the road resulted in many high horsepower single units. Since the Pennsylvania Centipedes were operated as a drawbarred 6000 HP set, the Union Pacific might have operated their DR-12's in the same fashion. The units may be run separately if the user desires, simply by creating a consist using the three models that comprise each unit.
Original File Name = UP998.exe
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Union Pacific #998 / #999 Baldwin DR-12-8-3000 Set
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#2 Inactive_track1_*
Posted 17 June 2009 - 11:43 AM
Hello Frank Musick,
just new to this forum I discovered some rare rolling stock. Thank you for the one and only Centipede in UP design! Meanwhile I managed to roar uphill Cajon with the R16 sound and babyface cabview. Something special! :lol: though it's a Beta-Centipede ...
Now my question: I'd rather would switch on the headlight too - but it remains dark. Is it because of Beta, or of Bin Patch ( 1.8.052113), or because of the much eng files? What's the trick?
Greetings
Gerhard
just new to this forum I discovered some rare rolling stock. Thank you for the one and only Centipede in UP design! Meanwhile I managed to roar uphill Cajon with the R16 sound and babyface cabview. Something special! :lol: though it's a Beta-Centipede ...
Now my question: I'd rather would switch on the headlight too - but it remains dark. Is it because of Beta, or of Bin Patch ( 1.8.052113), or because of the much eng files? What's the trick?
Greetings
Gerhard
#3 Inactive_kelticsylk_*
Posted 17 June 2009 - 05:31 PM
I downloaded the file so I see what you see....and wasn't even able to get the locomotive to load in the sim!
Not sure how you got it running let alone work the lights.
Let me look into it and see what I can find out.
Not sure how you got it running let alone work the lights.
Let me look into it and see what I can find out.
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Posted 18 June 2009 - 03:15 AM
kelticsylk, on Jun 17 2009, 09:31 PM, said:
I downloaded the file so I see what you see....and wasn't even able to get the locomotive to load in the sim!
Not sure how you got it running let alone work the lights.
Let me look into it and see what I can find out.
Not sure how you got it running let alone work the lights.
Let me look into it and see what I can find out.
Frank;
I find it strange that with close to 40 downloads of this file, there have been no other comments if this has problems. Everyone downloading the file has access to post a comment or question as Gerhard has done.
I took a quick look at the file too, and see there are many problems that need correction to get the engine to appear and run in the simulator. Maybe Gerhard can tell you what steps he went through to get the loco running. I am sorry, but my plate is full and I cannot dig into this at the moment.
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Posted 18 June 2009 - 05:05 AM
Chile Bill, on Jun 18 2009, 07:15 AM, said:
Frank;
I find it strange that with close to 40 downloads of this file, there have been no other comments if this has problems. Everyone downloading the file has access to post a comment or question as Gerhard has done.
I took a quick look at the file too, and see there are many problems that need correction to get the engine to appear and run in the simulator. Maybe Gerhard can tell you what steps he went through to get the loco running. I am sorry, but my plate is full and I cannot dig into this at the moment.
I find it strange that with close to 40 downloads of this file, there have been no other comments if this has problems. Everyone downloading the file has access to post a comment or question as Gerhard has done.
I took a quick look at the file too, and see there are many problems that need correction to get the engine to appear and run in the simulator. Maybe Gerhard can tell you what steps he went through to get the loco running. I am sorry, but my plate is full and I cannot dig into this at the moment.
Bill,
I know that when I started in this hobby, I would download and maybe not run the item for quite some time. I know for a fact that there are activities I have downloaded and never installed!! Now that I have so much more on my plate (and so much more in my TRAINSET folder :lol: ), I rarely download something unless I have an immediate use for it.
Perfect example: I would be downloading this little beasty if it was Pennsy and if I was buildiong activities at the moment. In the past, I would have downloaded it anyway, and stored it away for future use and/or reskinning....
Rick
#6 Inactive_track1_*
Posted 18 June 2009 - 11:26 AM
To Frank and the other Engineers,
yes - with the usual steps and the con.file UPDR12-8-30998 the Centipede didnt appear in my Train Sim or Act Editor. So I finally put the files in a folder named UP DR12-8-30 998 Train Sim had asked me for.
Now I could find the 3 parts of Centipede in Act Editor to make an own consist.
To switch on the light I tried to change the light section in UP998-2.eng, but it remains dark.
I would be happy if anyone could switch on that light!
UP Centipede - one of the more awesome locomotives :lol:
Gerhard
yes - with the usual steps and the con.file UPDR12-8-30998 the Centipede didnt appear in my Train Sim or Act Editor. So I finally put the files in a folder named UP DR12-8-30 998 Train Sim had asked me for.
Now I could find the 3 parts of Centipede in Act Editor to make an own consist.
To switch on the light I tried to change the light section in UP998-2.eng, but it remains dark.
I would be happy if anyone could switch on that light!
UP Centipede - one of the more awesome locomotives :lol:
Gerhard
#7 Inactive_kelticsylk_*
Posted 18 June 2009 - 02:50 PM
I checked the files..GAWD!
This isn't even the right zip file. Thanks for bringing this to my attention.
This isn't even the right zip file. Thanks for bringing this to my attention.
#8 Inactive_kelticsylk_*
Posted 18 June 2009 - 03:15 PM
I got it loaded...I took a similar direction as Gerhard, but used a folder UP998.
The lights don't work, probably a location problem.
There are also some texture issues and I think I made it crash by rotating the 2 view.
The lights don't work, probably a location problem.
There are also some texture issues and I think I made it crash by rotating the 2 view.
#9 Inactive_kelticsylk_*
Posted 18 June 2009 - 06:12 PM
I reworked the textures and a couple of other things...
Now the bad news...None of the centipedes have working lights! I tried the two Pennsy units and SAL 4500. Same result, no lights!
At first I thought it was a bug in the fact that they are articulated, and the lights are on the second unit. I checked the GN W-1 and its light work fine (even the Mars light). I know the Lil Joe's work. Tim and Chuck made sure of that.
Now the bad news...None of the centipedes have working lights! I tried the two Pennsy units and SAL 4500. Same result, no lights!
At first I thought it was a bug in the fact that they are articulated, and the lights are on the second unit. I checked the GN W-1 and its light work fine (even the Mars light). I know the Lil Joe's work. Tim and Chuck made sure of that.
#10 Inactive_kelticsylk_*
Posted 19 June 2009 - 05:08 PM
Gerhard, take a look in the Steam & Diesel Locomotive Modeling section...
The lights didn't work because of a unit setting in the UP998-2.ENG file.
I fixed a few things. You can throw away the old model.
The lights didn't work because of a unit setting in the UP998-2.ENG file.
I fixed a few things. You can throw away the old model.