[Laci1959]

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In individual locomotive, it's needed to refer the place and shape of exhaust outlet:

Thanks for the info. I couldn't find this anywhere.

I'm also trying to set engines in different states. My idea is that the lower pitch engines are used, so I'll dial back the power a bit and mix in a little blue. The other aspect is the appearance of the locomotive. I also try to mix the color according to the engine used for the locomotive with peeling paint.

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(old M62 had two funnels, no suppressor), they called taigatrommel in Germany, You've heared it's rumble, I emember.

I remember this from my childhood. The passengers covered their ears when it started with nearly 2,000 tons.

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I guess, old parameters are mixed with ORTS and can alter them.

That's why I always delete the old parameters. For a specific type, I always keep it, but I make a note of it.

[Weter]

Yes, it's very unpleasant, when You've defined values, as You like, and then, in game, they have appeared "corrected" by forgotten in original file MSTS values.
But what I've told about - is using this effect for our benefit.

[Laci1959]

Weter, on 05 November 2022 - 02:24 AM, said:

Yes, it's very unpleasant, when You've defined values, as You like, and then, in game, they have appeared "corrected" by forgotten in original file MSTS values.
But what I've told about - is using this effect for our benefit.

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include ( ../m62-001.eng )

Wagon (
	ORTSBrakePipeVolume ( 37.12l )
  	  ORTSBrakeShoeFriction (
  			0	0.31
			1	0.30
			2	0.28
			3	0.27
			4	0.26
			5	0.25
			7	0.24
			8	0.23
			9	0.22
			12	0.21
			14	0.20
			17	0.19
			20	0.18
			24	0.17
			29	0.16
			34	0.15
			40	0.14
			47	0.13
			55	0.12
			66	0.11
			84	0.10
			115	0.09
			160	0.09
	)

	ORTSDirectAdmissionValve ( 0 )
	ORTSAuxilaryResCapacity ( 20.25ft^3 )
	ORTSNumberBrakeCylinders ( 6 )
	ORTSBrakeCylinderSize ( 10in )

	ORTSAdhesion (
		ORTSCurtius_Kniffler (7.5 44 0.161 0.7 )
		Wheelset ( 
			Axle (
			ORTSInertia ( 3164,4 )
			ORTSRadius ( 0.625 )
			)
		)
	)
	ORTSDavis_A ( 340.21 )
	ORTSDavis_B ( 3.8360 )
	ORTSDavis_C ( 0.584900 )
	ORTSBearingType ( Low )
	ORTS3DCab (
		ORTS3DCabHeadPos ( 0.7 3.2 7.06 )
		ORTS3DCabFile ( cab_or.s )
		RotationLimit ( 10 90 90 )
		StartDirection ( 0 0 0 )
		Sound ( "M62cab.sms" )
	)
	ORTS3DCab (
		ORTS3DCabHeadPos ( -0.7 3.2 -7.06 )
		ORTS3DCabFile ( cab_or.s )
		RotationLimit ( 10 90 90 )
		StartDirection ( -0 180 0 )
		Sound ( "M62cab.sms" )
	)

	ORTSRigidWheelBase ( 4.1 )
	ORTSTrackGauge ( 1.435 )
)

Engine (
	ORTSMainResChargingRate ( 0.04bar/s )

	ORTSEngineBrakeReleaserate ( 0.95bar/s )
	ORTSEngineBrakeApplicationrate ( 0.95bar/s )

	ORTSBrakePipeChargingrate ( 0.9bar/s )
	ORTSBrakeServiceTimefactor ( 1.009 )
	ORTSBrakePipeTimeFactor ( 0.003 )
	ORTSBrakeEmergencyTimeFactor ( 0.1 )
	ORTSTrainBrakesControllerMaxOverchargePressure ( 6.3bar )
	ORTSTrainBrakesControllerOverchargeEliminationRate ( 0,025bar/s )

	ORTSDriveWheelWeight ( 116t )
	ORTSWheelSlipCausesThrottleDown ( 0 )
	ORTSTrainControlSystem ( ..\..\common.script\EVM.cs )
	ORTSTrainControlSystemParameters ( ..\..\common.script\INTENDON.ini )

	ORTSPowerSupply ( Default )
	ORTSPowerOnDelay ( 1s )
	ORTSAuxPowerOnDelay ( 1s )
	ORTSBattery (								Comment ( Akkumulátor kapcsoló )
		Mode ( Switch )							Comment ( Kézzel kapcsolni, nyomógombos működtetés esetén PushButtons az érték )
		Delay ( 2s )							Comment ( Bekapcsolási késleltetés )
	)
	ORTSMasterKey (
		Mode ( Manual )							Comment ( Reteszkulcs, pakett kulcs )
		DelayOff ( 10s )						Comment ( Kikapcsolási késleltetés )
	)

	ORTSDieselEngines ( 1
		Diesel (
			IdleRPM ( 400 )
			MaxRPM ( 750 )
			StartingRPM ( 380 )
			StartingConfirmRPM ( 401 )
			ChangeUpRPMpS ( 38 )
			ChangeDownRPMpS ( 26 )
			RateOfChangeUpRPMpSS ( 100 )
			RateOfChangeDownRPMpSS ( 100 )
			MaximalPower ( 1250kW )
			IdleExhaust ( 1.8 )
			MaxExhaust ( 16.0 )
			ExhaustDynamics ( 8.0 )
			ExhaustDynamicsDown ( 4.0 )
			ExhaustColor ( 00CACACA )
        		ExhaustTransientColor ( 00ABAFD3 )
			MinOilPressure ( 40 )
			MaxOilPressure ( 90 )
			MaxTemperature ( 120 )
			Cooling ( 1 )
			TempTimeConstant ( 720 )
			OptTemperature ( 90 )
			IdleTemperature ( 70 )
                        DieselPowerTab (
                                0  0
                                400	  45000
                                406	  50000
                                425	 150000
				450	 200000
				475	 400000
                                500	 450000
                                525	 500000
				550	 550000
				575	 650000
				600	 700000
				625	 750000
                                650	 800000
				675	 900000
				700	1000000
				725	1100000
				750	1232000
			)
                        DieselConsumptionTab (
                                0  0
                                400	 35.2
                                500	150.0
                                550	173.8
				600	204.8
				625	223.8
				650	242.9
				675	273.8
				700	304.8
				725	354.0
                                750	408.0
                        ) 
                        ThrottleRPMTab (
				  0	400
				  6	406
				 13	425
				 20	450
				 26	475
				 33	500
				 40	525
				 46	550
				 53	575
				 60	600
				 66	625
				 73	650
				 80	675
				 86	700
				 93	725
				100	750
                        )
                        DieselTorqueTab (
                                0	    0
                                400	 1.074kN
                                406	 1.193kN
                                425	 3.370kN
				450	 4.244kN
				475	 8.042kN
				500	 8.595kN
				525	 9.095kN
				550	 9.550kN
				575	10.795kN
                                600	11.460kN
				625	11.753kN
				650	12.733kN
				675	13.642kN
				700	13.642kN
                                725	14.489kN
                                750	15.687kN
                        )
		)
	)
	ORTSTractionCharacteristics (	11	17												
	throttle (	   0	 0.06	 0.13	 0.20	  0.26	    0.3       0.40	  0.46	    0.53	 0.60	          0.66           0.73            0.80            0.86	         0.93          	1.00 )			
	table (													
		0km/h	0.00kN	40.00kN	80.00kN	100.00kN 170.00kN 191.00kN   202.00kN	217.00kN   233.00kN	254.00kN	270.00kN	300.00kN	330.00kN	360.00kN	370.00kN	370.00kN			
		10km/h	0.00kN	30.00kN	40.00kN	60.00kN	110.00kN  123.00kN   137.00kN	150.00kN   163.00kN       179.00kN	195.00kN	209.00kN	223.00kN	240.00kN	250.00kN	260.00kN			
		20km/h	0.00kN	20.00kN	30.00kN	40.00kN	63.00kN	   75.00kN  84.00kN	93.00kN	   103.00kN	113.00kN	126.00kN	136.00kN	150.00kN	165.00kN	180.00kN	194.00kN			
		30km/h	0.00kN	10.00kN	20.00kN	32.00kN	43.00kN	   48.00kN  52.00kN     57.00kN	    62.00kN	67.00kN		74.00kN		82.00kN		96.00kN		110.00kN 	124.00kN	135.00kN			
		40km/h	0.00kN	0.00kN	10.00kN	24.00kN	28.00kN	   33.00kN  38.00kN     41.00kN	    45.00kN	49.00kN		55.00kN		61.00kN		69.00kN		77.00kN		87.00kN		96.00kN			
		50km/h	0.00kN	0.00kN	0.00kN	18.00kN	23.00kN	   26.00kN  29.00kN     32.00kN	    36.00kN	39.00kN		43.00kN		47.00kN		54.00kN		61.00kN		70.00kN		78.00kN			
		60km/h	0.00kN	0.00kN	0.00kN	12.00kN	15.00kN	   18.00kN  22.00kN     25.00kN	    28.00kN	31.00kN		35.00kN		38.00kN		43.00kN		48.00kN		56.50kN		64.00kN			
		70km/h	0.00kN	0.00kN	0.00kN	7.00kN	9.00kN	   13.00kN  15.00kN     18.00kN	    22.00kN	24.00kN		27.00kN		30.00kN		35.00kN		39.00kN		47.00kN		53.00kN			
		80km/h	0.00kN	0.00kN	0.00kN	0.00kN	5.00kN	    6.00kN   9.00kN     12.50kN	    15.00kN	17.00kN		21.00kN		24.00kN		28.00kN		32.00kN		38.00kN		44.00kN			
		90km/h	0.00kN	0.00kN	0.00kN	0.00kN	0.00kN	    1.00kN   3.00kN      6.00kN	    9.00kN	12.00kN		15.00kN		18.00kN		22.00kN		26.00kN		32.00kN		37.00kN			
		100km/h	0.00kN	0.00kN	0.00kN	0.00kN	0.00kN	    0.00kN   0.00kN      3.50kN	    5.00kN	7.00kN		9.00kN		13.00kN		16.00kN		20.00kN		26.00kN		32.00kN			
		)													
	)
)

Parameters of Mása beginning with ORTS. It is advisable to copy it to the eng file in the Openrails folder. It works for me because I can see everything and find it easily.
If you have any comments, I welcome them.

[Weter]

Oh my!
Let's see...
But it will diverge of smoke modeling topic.

I've meant, instead of experimenting and guessing, it has sence to know formula, with which smoke is being generated.
What about brake parameters and tractive force table, I'll continue via PM
http://www.elvastowe...242#entry142242
http://www.elvastowe...__1#entry140130
http://www.elvastowe...328#entry139328

[Laci1959]

I read all the links. These were created before the creation of the ORTSDieselEngines block. I was never able to set it properly either. By using the ORTSDieselEngines block, this is simplified. The disadvantage is that you have to obtain the necessary engine data. This is sometimes very difficult because it is terribly guarded. The advantage, however, is that individual smoke, fuel consumption and the rest can be tailored to the locomotive.
Maybe you can change the color of the grass with the dieselsmoke.ace, dieselsmokevorher.ace files in the Textures folder in the Global folder. But I'm not sure about that.
A long time ago, Carlo made some kind of loading bat file to use dieselsmoke_heavy.ace, dieselsmoke_light.ace, dieselsmoke_medium.ace. This is another MSTS setting that I read about once, but never used.

[Weter]

Two short topics - yes, but the long one... I need to read it.
If no data, it's possible to build simple curves with only four entries - for min and max; because it's true: the engine block won't work without all data entered.

We do have some books.

3D trains (now dead) have offered three smoke variants. I prefer light, as it cAn be made thicker, if needed, but most transparent of them all.
Try ErickC's smoke texture as well.
Bat-files... I've made them too. Especially for changing clouds on skies. It's simple.

[steved]

Weter,
Could you give those of us who are computer illiterate a short "how to" on your batch file.

Randy

[Weter]

1. Copy to working folder (in our case - Global\Textures) those three *.ace-files (light, medium, heavy)
2. Rename original dieselsmoke.ace to something different, but "speaking": for instance - dieselsmoke_orig.ace
3. Right-click on empty space of folder window's field and select Create->Text file
4. With Notepad (or other program, You prefer), open new file and type:

Copy dieselsmoke_heavy.ace dieselsmoke.ace

5. Save file, exit editor and rename it (new file.txt) to Heavy smoke.bat, or something, You like.
6. Make three copies of *.bat-file and rename them to "light", "medium" and "original"
7. Edit those three files, specifying appropriate source-file names and save them.
If Editor have SaveAs menu entry, You can do it faster, saving with needed names, then changing source (first) file's name inside, then save with next name.

Now, You have 4 source *.ace-files and four *.bat-files for selecting needed type of smoke.
Double-click needed *.bat-file and new dieselsmoke.ace will be created, containing demanded image inside.

[steved]

Seems easy enough.
Thanks

Randy

[Weter]

Also suitable for changing other things, as skies, clouds, etc.
It also possible to make shortcuts to these *.bat-files from any location, You like, or write one *.bat-file, using menu code -for selecting preferred asset by yourself, using only one *.bat-file.

Hey, Randy, I've stumbled upon this:
http://www.elvastowe...post__p__270509
Looks like Gerry could teach You some tricks with *.bat-files, using to change and select ORTS content variations, with additions of making shortcuts in form of miniature pictures of stuff in question.