[darwins]

Hi Carlo

Is it possible to also add Flo's controller to EngineControllers for general use in OR. There are two uses I can see for this. One is for tap changer electric locomotives as mentioned here

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Throttle controller notches:
-- = instant off for traction, and run-down tranformer tap notches
0 = run-down tap notches
- = one tap notch down
N = neutral
+ = one tap notch up
++ = run-up tap notches

Which might end up giving something like this:

Throttle ( 0 0.6 0.1 0
 NumNotches ( 6 )
  Notch ( 0.0   0  Off )
  Notch ( 0.2   0  RunDown )
  Notch ( 0.4   0  NotchDown )
  Notch ( 0.6   0  Hold )
  Notch ( 0.8   0  NotchUp )
  Notch ( 1.0   0  RunUp )
 ORTSNumberofTransformerTaps ( 38 )
 ORTSNumberofWeakFieldNotches ( 2 )
 ORTSNotchChangeTime (0.9s) ) )

Also the same kind of logic could be applied to a steam reverser in a steam locomotive

ORTSSteamReverser ( 0 1 0.5 0.5
 NumNotches( 3 )
  Notch ( 0.0 0 RunDown )
  Notch ( 0.5 0 Hold )
  Notch ( 1.0 0 RunUp )
Cutoff ( -0.55 0.75 0.01 0 ) )

Steam reversers are usually sprung so that they would only Run Up or Run Down when W or S key was pressed and held (or control held with mouse) WHILE_PRESSED, when released they return to Hold / Neutral position.

[Weter]

Yes, some e-locos with multiple-stepped traction cintrollers has the same controls,
in form of handles: "fast off"/"neutral"/"-1"/"fixation"/"+1"/ and maybe "field wakening" (up to 4 notches) or "automatic run-up"
https://www.youtube....h?v=loPqFD6A8-I
"N"/"+1" work; 1:09 "field wakening" notches; 3:24 "fast-off"
or buttons +/-
https://www.youtube....h?v=M0X_02nr_14

[Serana]

FloBarr, on 19 May 2020 - 06:09 AM, said:

Hi,

In France, as said, we have the VI (Vitesse imposée): it rely on a rotating lever which can take several positions: 0 - CD - CM - VI. It's use is combined with traction/braking lever.
For each position:
0: no traction or dynamic braking, on DMU and EMU i drive/drove, MPT (Manipulateur Traction Freinage - Traction Braking Lever) is locked on this position.
CD: Couplage - Désaccouplement: used to attach or detach, limiting speed around 3 km/h, no automatic dynamic brake.
CM: Commande Manuelle: the driver has full control on the traction or dynamic brake.
VI: the engineer rotate and select a speed, shown by a needle on a display. The system try to obtain the displayed speed, but is constrained by the position of le MPT. If unsufficiant power is given, the speed can't be reached. The dynamic braking is automaticaly managed.

I've read above about lever with stable AND unstable positions (0 - N +). Is this available somewhere with OR? If not, I've developped such a control for my french engines, usable for traction, traction/braking, and train brake levers (with optional emergency pos). Is this interresting? It rely on a new style definition, and is pretty easy to use.

Flo

Hi,

There is also the older system where the position are F (Manual Dynamic Braking) - 0 (Neutral) - T (Manual Traction) - VI (Cruise Control).
It is used on locomotives that have the traction/braking controller that looks like a steering wheel (for example, BB26000 and TGV Atlantique).

[FS.E652 091]

If it can be useful for those who maybe will make the Italian version, with us the cruise control is understood as LCA ..

(automatic gear control lever)

it is placed on the right of the desk, and the selector, meant by the abbreviation "LV" is used to select and set the speed .. it has these functions:

+
-
N
O


also in the cab it is possible to use the LCM intended for "manual gear control lever" .. the latter is a lever placed on the left of the bench, which acts as a dynamic brake and manual accelerator .. on the driving manuals of the various locomotives, its operation is explained .. because it can vary according to depending on the rolling stock ..

[Weter]

Add to post #17
Button-controlled throttle:
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Oy9UxTBZEZo/maxresdefault.jpg
With speed-reference buttons above.

[Csantucci]

In OR NewYear MG rev. 100 a cruise control feature, developed by Jindrich and very slightly adapted by me (proportions of work more or less 99.99% vs 0.01%), is available.
The description of the feature can be found here http://www.interazio...isecontrol.html .
I must confess that, due to the fact that I'm not the author of the feature, I don't know the whole potential of it.

Together with Paolo we are inserting the feature in some Italian electric locos, and the results are quite satisfying. In the next days I have the intention to make available the download links to a demo loco.

[Albertosaurio65]

Hi, I've been trying to do this since the update came out, and I can't do it, let's see if someone can help me, please

This is the cabin of a high speed train



1-This lever is what controls the maximum speed, it is now at 0, and while the lever advances the preset speed increases, and when it is lowered, it reduces

2-This is the Traction/dynamic brake lever, when the cruise control is active, this lever establishes the power, if the preset speed is at 30, and this lever at 0, the train does not advance, for this it must have at least 1% acceleration. When using the dynamic, the train brakes, since the cruise control actually does is establish a speed limit, not maintain it.

3-This illuminated button is what activates the system, when pressed, it turns on and deactivates the system, if it is pressed again, the system is activated and the light turns off

I have tried to do everything in the ORTS but nothing, and I do not know which cockpit controls to use and I have read the .xls file

I'm also not sure what it can be done, if it can't be done currently, I'd like to suggest that kind of behavior

Thanks in advance

[Jindrich]

Hi!
I am the author of the CruiseControl. Post me PM, we will solve it. It's just misconfiguration. The CruiseControl is rather complex, that's why.
Jindřich

Albertosaurio65, on 29 June 2021 - 11:56 AM, said:

Hi, I've been trying to do this since the update came out, and I can't do it, let's see if someone can help me, please

This is the cabin of a high speed train

Open Rails 2021-06-29 09-37-53.jpg

1-This lever is what controls the maximum speed, it is now at 0, and while the lever advances the preset speed increases, and when it is lowered, it reduces

2-This is the Traction/dynamic brake lever, when the cruise control is active, this lever establishes the power, if the preset speed is at 30, and this lever at 0, the train does not advance, for this it must have at least 1% acceleration. When using the dynamic, the train brakes, since the cruise control actually does is establish a speed limit, not maintain it.

3-This illuminated button is what activates the system, when pressed, it turns on and deactivates the system, if it is pressed again, the system is activated and the light turns off

I have tried to do everything in the ORTS but nothing, and I do not know which cockpit controls to use and I have read the .xls file

I'm also not sure what it can be done, if it can't be done currently, I'd like to suggest that kind of behavior

Thanks in advance

[Luis]

Jindrich, on 29 June 2021 - 01:06 PM, said:

Hi!
I am the author of the CruiseControl. Post me PM, we will solve it. It's just misconfiguration. The CruiseControl is rather complex, that's why.
Jindřich

Hi Jindrich

Can you help me also?

Thankyou

Regards
Luis

[Luis]

Csantucci, on 24 June 2021 - 12:46 PM, said:

In OR NewYear MG rev. 100 a cruise control feature, developed by Jindrich and very slightly adapted by me (proportions of work more or less 99.99% vs 0.01%), is available.
The description of the feature can be found here http://www.interazio...isecontrol.html .
I must confess that, due to the fact that I'm not the author of the feature, I don't know the whole potential of it.

Together with Paolo we are inserting the feature in some Italian electric locos, and the results are quite satisfying. In the next days I have the intention to make available the download links to a demo loco.

Hi Carlos

Thankyou so much.
I have try your italian loco, but without success, can you show us this in a video? maybe?


Grazie
Saluti
LN

[Luis]

Luis, on 05 July 2021 - 02:10 AM, said:

Hi Carlos

Thankyou so much.
I have try your italian loco, but without success, can you show us this in a video? maybe?


Grazie
Saluti
LN

The Speed selector mode changed allways to neutral instead of On :/

[Csantucci]

I assume you downloaded Pack_CruiseControl_Rev1.0.zip from http://www.interazio...ve.it/Downloads . I haven't yet shared this link here, because the readme is at the moment only in Italian.
At the moment, together with Paolo, we are equipping other locos with the CC. After that I should add also an English readme. So you should be a bit patient to get full instructions.
If you know a bit of Italian, you can follow this thread http://www.trainsimh...hp?f=23&t=19058 .
By the way, what keyboard or mouse sequence are you using to try to start the locomotive?

[Luis]

Csantucci, on 05 July 2021 - 08:46 AM, said:

I assume you downloaded Pack_CruiseControl_Rev1.0.zip from http://www.interazio...ve.it/Downloads . I haven't yet shared this link here, because the readme is at the moment only in Italian.
At the moment, together with Paolo, we are equipping other locos with the CC. After that I should add also an English readme. So you should be a bit patient to get full instructions.
If you know a bit of Italian, you can follow this thread http://www.trainsimh...hp?f=23&t=19058 .
By the way, what keyboard or mouse sequence are you using to try to start the locomotive?

Thankyou Carlo :)
Wow GreatJob!
I use the keyboard for the start.

[Csantucci]

At last there is an English readme for the first Cruise Control content pack.
The pack itself can be downloaded from my usual download page. The pack is Pack_CruiseControl_E464_Rev2.0.zip . At the moment two E464 locomotives, with different TCS interface, are equipped in the pack. The pack includes both the additional files for the TCS and for Cruise Control. If it is desired to try only Cruise Control, TCS operation can be disabled with the available option in the General Options of the OR menu.

[Laci1959]

Hello.
If ORTSDynamicBrakeForceCurves and ORTSTractionCharacteristics are also in the eng, it doesn't work well. The dynamic brake alternates between Off and 0 very quickly.

Sincerely, Laci 1959