[SVRy_Steve]

Nice work Tim. I've always liked the NP W class engines, as you know. It does look strange without the NP headlight. Short smokebox, most NP coal burners had theirs extended, with a cyclone type front end inside.

The doghouse seems to be missing the W-3 class 2-8-2 and tender under it!

[timmuir]

SVRy_Steve, on 24 February 2023 - 11:55 AM, said:

Nice work Tim. I've always liked the NP W class engines, as you know. It does look strange without the NP headlight. Short smokebox, most NP coal burners had theirs extended, with a cyclone type front end inside.

The doghouse seems to be missing the W-3 class 2-8-2 and tender under it!

Thanks guys.

Yep, Steve, I know! Ten years ago, you "talked me into" building the first model W, No. 1507 (which I modified for OR a few years ago). I now have 11 W's, including modified copies of OR versions of the 1507, 1515, 1592 and the 1532, of course.

Yes indeed, there is an engine and tender missing below it! But... I do have a tender for a W-3. A standard 22-E type, I believe. I have the drawings for the W-3 locomotive as well. It would be a good experience boning up on the Walschearts gear animations for me, finally. ;)

the W-3's as you know, were always a favorite of mine, since day one.



Randy, love your tattered American flag!

I'm preparing the dog house package right now. Should be up within the hour.

[Weter]

1785 differs significantly from 1532 by photos.

[SVRy_Steve]

The class W mikes were the 1st 2-8-2s used by a major railroad in the US. As I understand it, there were some logging engines that were 2-8-2s, but the trailing truck was to guide them in back-up moves, where the W class trailing truck was to support the weight of a much larger firebox. The 1st of these was built in 1904, weighing 263,500 pounds and TE of 46,600 pounds.

The W-3s were much heavier and newer, built starting in 1913 and weighing in at around 330,000 pounds with tracktive effort of 57,100.

My father worked around both, as a brakeman. According to him, the W class was much smoother riding and better balanced, so could run 60 or so no problem. The W-3s were hard riders and very rough above about 45 mph, but very good freight engines. Both types were still in service in the mid to late 1950s.

Tim,

You could always do another W, the 1608 came from the factory with Walschaerts valve gear!

[timmuir]

SVRy_Steve, on 24 February 2023 - 08:38 PM, said:

The class W mikes were the 1st 2-8-2s used by a major railroad in the US. As I understand it, there were some logging engines that were 2-8-2s, but the trailing truck was to guide them in back-up moves, where the W class trailing truck was to support the weight of a much larger firebox. The 1st of these was built in 1904, weighing 263,500 pounds and TE of 46,600 pounds.

The W-3s were much heavier and newer, built starting in 1913 and weighing in at around 330,000 pounds with tracktive effort of 57,100.

My father worked around both, as a brakeman. According to him, the W class was much smoother riding and better balanced, so could run 60 or so no problem. The W-3s were hard riders and very rough above about 45 mph, but very good freight engines. Both types were still in service in the mid to late 1950s.

Tim,

You could always do another W, the 1608 came from the factory with Walschaerts valve gear!

1608 at the factory, via the National Parks Archives.



I better post a screen shot, since we are getting off-track here ;)

South of Elsweyr.



Good days. Stay well, everyone.

[Weter]

Ideal driving gear's position matching, between photo and screenshot.

Interesting feature: cab's side window has arc-like top.

[timmuir]

Yes, the arched cab windows were an original feature, which was simplified to a rectangular opening after some time. They are featured prominently in the original drawings. I like 'em.

All eight of my current W's, with a couple of F-1's way in the back.

[Weter]

Great.
Has distant similarity with Scott's Mikado...
http://www.elvastower.com/forums/uploads/monthly_10_2022/post-6-0-93040400-1666892914_thumb.jpg
But quite different at the same time. Different manufacturers?

[SVRy_Steve]

That looks to be a newer version of the 2-8-2 wheel arrangement, and, of course, customized to the individual railroad's needs.

[Weter]

Oh, this warm sunny gamma!
Ah, have caught: AlCo vs Baldwin.