Combined Control Throttle and Brake
#1
Posted 15 January 2017 - 06:48 PM
If i use the keyboard to enter the brake section, the mouse then moves the controller for the brake. While still in the brake section, the mouse can move the controller from brake to throttle, but will not move from throttle to brake.
Any ideas?
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#2
Posted 16 January 2017 - 12:21 AM
Not sure I'm able to provide a help, but let's try.
#3
Posted 16 January 2017 - 03:20 AM
Csantucci, on 16 January 2017 - 12:21 AM, said:
Not sure I'm able to provide a help, but let's try.
Carlo.
The same thing happen with the default series 700 EMU. Mouse can move controller while already in the brake section into power section but will not go into brake section from the power section. You can test this for now as won't be able to access my ENG/CVF files until later. I do remember my CVF having style as 'NONE'.
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#4
Posted 16 January 2017 - 04:01 PM
In OR, the train brake keys are still activate, so you can control the brake with the normal train brake keys and the combined controller keys ( A and D ).
As the mouse can move the combined controller from brake to throttle, but not from throttle to brake, i'm unsure if this is an error on my part or a bug.
EngineControllers ( Throttle ( 0 1 0.0125 0 NumNotches ( 8 Notch ( 0 0 Dummy ) Notch ( 0.05 0 Dummy ) Notch ( 0.15 0 Dummy ) Notch ( 0.30 0 Dummy ) Notch ( 0.50 0 Dummy ) Notch ( 0.67 0 Dummy ) Notch ( 0.80 0 Dummy ) Notch ( 1.0 0 Dummy ) ) ) Brake_Train ( 0 1 0 0.722 NumNotches ( 5 Notch ( 0 0 TrainBrakesControllerReleaseStart ) Notch ( 0.300 0 TrainBrakesControllerEPApplyStart ) Notch ( 0.622 0 TrainBrakesControllerEPApplyStart ) Notch ( 0.722 0 TrainBrakesControllerContinuousServiceStart ) Notch ( 1.000 0 TrainBrakesControllerEmergencyStart ) ) ) Combined_Control( 0 1 0.56 0.56 throttle train ) CombinedControl ( Type ( CP_HANDLE COMBINED_CONTROL ) Position ( 91 383 139 113 ) Graphic ( 166_Throttle.ACE ) Style ( NONE ) MouseControl ( 1 ) NumFrames ( 15 3 5 ) NumPositions ( 15 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 14 ) NumValues ( 15 0 0.07 0.14 0.21 0.28 0.35 0.42 0.49 0.56 0.63 0.70 0.77 0.84 0.91 0.98 ) Orientation ( 1 ) DirIncrease ( 1 ) )
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#5
Posted 17 January 2017 - 02:09 AM
#6
Posted 17 January 2017 - 02:13 AM
Orts.Simulation.dll.zip (386.95K)
Number of downloads: 416
Comparing your case with the Series 7000, I'm not sure you've prepared correct blocks.
1) In the Series 7000 the value defined as intermediate value is the fifth one in the .cvf file (0.4), because the throttle controller has 5 notches. In your case you have 8 notches, but you have defined as intermediate value the 9th one (0.56) and not the 8th one (0.49).
2) In the Series 7000 the brake controller has 3 notches and in the .cvf file in fact there are 3 positions from 0.4 to 0.88, 0.4 included.
In your case, even starting from 0.56 you have in the brake controller 5 notches and in the .cvf file 7 positions instead of 5.
Coolhand, pls. open a bug report for this.
#7
Posted 17 January 2017 - 02:54 AM
Csantucci, on 17 January 2017 - 02:13 AM, said:
Orts.Simulation.dll.zip
Comparing your case with the Series 7000, I'm not sure you've prepared correct blocks.
1) In the Series 7000 the value defined as intermediate value is the fifth one in the .cvf file (0.4), because the throttle controller has 5 notches. In your case you have 8 notches, but you have defined as intermediate value the 9th one (0.56) and not the 8th one (0.49).
2) In the Series 7000 the brake controller has 3 notches and in the .cvf file in fact there are 3 positions from 0.4 to 0.88, 0.4 included.
In your case, even starting from 0.56 you have in the brake controller 5 notches and in the .cvf file 7 positions instead of 5.
Thanks ,downloading now.
I was having trouble with an animation not showing. There are 7 power positions, off and 4 brake steps. The brakes are gradulated on the 7000, on mine they are notched. I had to use all the animations in the CVF(15) but only use 12 for ENG file. If i use use less than 0.56 in the ENG file, one animation is skipped. However, reading your terminology, i think i now understand why one animation was missing in my original setup.
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#8
Posted 17 January 2017 - 04:20 AM
I reverted back to my original frames of 12 out of 15, this allows smooth movement in the throttle section but i have reintroduce the one animation skipped(only 11 out of 12).
Finding it hard to have the correct frames with stable throttle movement. Have to continue testing later. Bug report will be done soon.
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#10
Posted 23 November 2022 - 11:34 AM
Coolhand101, on 17 January 2017 - 02:54 AM, said:
I was having trouble with an animation not showing. There are 7 power positions, off and 4 brake steps. The brakes are gradulated on the 7000, on mine they are notched. I had to use all the animations in the CVF(15) but only use 12 for ENG file. If i use use less than 0.56 in the ENG file, one animation is skipped. However, reading your terminology, i think i now understand why one animation was missing in my original setup.
Thanks
Can you explain how to notch the brakes?? I dont like that gradulated control?? The model I am using, have gradulated brake control, how can I change it to notched control?? Please Explain in Brief.