Just had another look at the tender, Tim. It appears to be an oil bunker type, with that mysterious 'stack' the inlet for re-oiling? The other, towards the rear, is the wide water inlet. You can see the lifting handle for the lid. The 'oil inlet' appears to be offside of the center, more to the right side of the tender's tank top?
Cheers Bazza.
Generic slopeback tender - standard gauge (Baldwin) Coming soon........
#12
Posted 08 September 2015 - 07:31 AM
Yes, it's an oil tender and the tall 'stack' is the filler, which is centered on the bunker. Here's a photo of a brass model from Brasstrains.com, giving a clearer picture of the arrangements. This web site is proving to be a worthwhile research tool! Building the tender was accomplished by counting the rivets and marking where things begin and end in relation to them. The drawings you sent were of an entirely different style of construction than the SP&S tenders turned out to be, but still a valuable resource (thanks!).
#13
Posted 08 September 2015 - 12:10 PM
Hi Tim, well, the only common theme, I suppose, is they're both slope-backs. For all their apparent simplicity, they're actually quite a compound (body) shape that's very tricky to reproduce as a single shape. Max allows a few extra 'wrinkles' compared to TSM, but it still takes some sussing how to put it together - all part of the modeling fun thing, I suppose. I love a challenge, otherwise I'd go nuts, sometimes.
The bogie units are fairly common of the era, arch-bar. I'll have a look and see what I have on 'em. Oh yeah! Some photos off the Narrow Gauge Discussion Group site, but the type is similar to Std Gauge. I just stopped typing and went searching and found some
pics for you. Some are of the same type of bogie/truck and others are WHP pipework, which might help with other loco projects.
For_Tim.zip (1.27MB)
Number of downloads: 512
Cheers Bazza.
The bogie units are fairly common of the era, arch-bar. I'll have a look and see what I have on 'em. Oh yeah! Some photos off the Narrow Gauge Discussion Group site, but the type is similar to Std Gauge. I just stopped typing and went searching and found some
pics for you. Some are of the same type of bogie/truck and others are WHP pipework, which might help with other loco projects.
For_Tim.zip (1.27MB)
Number of downloads: 512
Cheers Bazza.
#14
Posted 08 September 2015 - 03:31 PM
Thank you, Barry, for the zip. Good stuff in there! :sign_thanks:
The way I built my slope back tender was by first laying out the artwork for the sides, using the rivet counting method for determining the general points where the slope begins and ends. I laid out the rivets on their own layer so they could be easily moved about without any relative problem. After I got the rivet pattern as close to the one on the model, I made a bitmap copy of the right side and use it for a backdrop in TSM to adjust the slope to match the rivets on the artwork:
Lucky for me that the SP&S tenders have sharp 90-degree corners where the side and top plates meet, instead of rounded corners. That cuts down the hair pulling!
I just noticed today I have to redo the SP&S logo (I chose the early version). The top slogan should read:"The North Bank Road", not what I have... :wallbash:
The way I built my slope back tender was by first laying out the artwork for the sides, using the rivet counting method for determining the general points where the slope begins and ends. I laid out the rivets on their own layer so they could be easily moved about without any relative problem. After I got the rivet pattern as close to the one on the model, I made a bitmap copy of the right side and use it for a backdrop in TSM to adjust the slope to match the rivets on the artwork:
Lucky for me that the SP&S tenders have sharp 90-degree corners where the side and top plates meet, instead of rounded corners. That cuts down the hair pulling!
I just noticed today I have to redo the SP&S logo (I chose the early version). The top slogan should read:"The North Bank Road", not what I have... :wallbash:
#15
Posted 08 September 2015 - 05:28 PM
Ah, ha, the old QC fail, Ooops, it's not what I thought, trick. Been there, many times, and will do again. http://www.elvastower.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/sorry.gif
CB.
CB.
#16
Posted 27 September 2015 - 11:30 PM
#17
Posted 29 September 2015 - 02:08 AM
#18
Posted 30 September 2015 - 08:05 PM
How strange, I just noticed that both our slopeback tenders are for their respectively numbered #5 locos! :derisive:
Yeah, it took a while to sink in......:rolleyes:
But, finally it did! :jawdrop2:
CB.
Yeah, it took a while to sink in......:rolleyes:
But, finally it did! :jawdrop2:
CB.
#19
Posted 02 October 2015 - 07:26 PM
#20
Posted 02 October 2015 - 07:41 PM
I have my occasional 'thick' moments, Tim. I have three excuses, all valid - singularly, or collectively. 1) Ignorance, 2) senior moment, 3) I'm awake.
Cheers Bazza. :wheelchair: !!?
Cheers Bazza. :wheelchair: !!?