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#1 User is offline   Fablok 

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Posted 10 March 2015 - 06:13 AM

On version 2913 is little problem on Scenic Subdivision. Speed sign show for egzample 45mph but after you pass it speed does not change. It changes on next semaphore or when you use ctrl+m combination.
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Posted 10 March 2015 - 06:48 AM

I've noticed that issue on several routes and it seems kind of random to me.

Some routes too have a speed sign issue where when a speed post is placed for 'Maximum route speed', it tells you in the F4 menu something like 2279MPH, but then reverts to what the route's top speed is when it takes effect.

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Posted 10 March 2015 - 08:39 AM

The speed is increased only after the whole train has passed the speed sign. Have you considered that?

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Posted 10 March 2015 - 10:38 AM

View PostCsantucci, on 10 March 2015 - 08:39 AM, said:

The speed is increased only after the whole train has passed the speed sign. Have you considered that?

Yes, I have actually. I've been running that way since you guys implemented it. Very well aware of it. However, I primarily run passenger trains with Amtrak stock. And my end will clear the speed change, and as the OP said, it won't take effect until I hit the next signal. And from what I can tell, it is absolutely random when it happens.

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Posted 10 March 2015 - 12:08 PM

On one activity I have this issue on second I don't have it. For example on act " Weentache Local" on Scenic Sub in part one where you have to work with cars ( many couple and uncouple work) I have this issue but on part two when you are driving back without coupling everything works.

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Posted 12 March 2015 - 03:58 AM

This also happens in the Explorer Mode on some routes (e.g. Pro Train Karwendelbahn).
Here you start for example within a max. allowed speed of 100 km/h.
In a station the exit-signal only allows a reduced speed of 60 Km/h.
After I leave the station there's a speed sign which rises the speed to 100 km/h again but the allowed speed in the track monitor remains 60 km/h...with all consequences (blinking warning light but..thank god...no emergency break).

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Posted 12 March 2015 - 07:36 AM

View PostRogue, on 12 March 2015 - 03:58 AM, said:

This also happens in the Explorer Mode on some routes (e.g. Pro Train Karwendelbahn).
Here you start for example within a max. allowed speed of 100 km/h.
In a station the exit-signal only allows a reduced speed of 60 Km/h.
After I leave the station there's a speed sign which rises the speed to 100 km/h again but the allowed speed in the track monitor remains 60 km/h...with all consequences (blinking warning light but..thank god...no emergency break).

Cheers


This observation is intended behavior, due to speed restriction precedence.

There are multiple types of speed restriction: Those implied by the consist (and it´s elements, IE ENGs and WAGs), those implied by the route, those implied by speed posts and those by signals (hope this is somewhat correct). Now, the one of those that takes effect is always the lowest, which in your case is the signal speed limit of 60 kph. That limit will be lifted again at the next clear signal, usually, and you should then be able to resume the 100 kph posted limit.

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Posted 12 March 2015 - 08:08 AM

View PostKazareh, on 10 March 2015 - 06:48 AM, said:

Some routes too have a speed sign issue where when a speed post is placed for 'Maximum route speed', it tells you in the F4 menu something like 2279MPH, but then reverts to what the route's top speed is when it takes effect.


I have noticed the same problem on "CSX Florida Funnel extra" route.

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Posted 12 March 2015 - 11:38 PM

View Postmarkus_GE, on 12 March 2015 - 07:36 AM, said:

This observation is intended behavior, due to speed restriction precedence.

There are multiple types of speed restriction: Those implied by the consist (and it´s elements, IE ENGs and WAGs), those implied by the route, those implied by speed posts and those by signals (hope this is somewhat correct). Now, the one of those that takes effect is always the lowest, which in your case is the signal speed limit of 60 kph. That limit will be lifted again at the next clear signal, usually, and you should then be able to resume the 100 kph posted limit.

Cheers, Markus


Hi Markus,

but this seems to be a different behaviour from MSTS, doesn't it ?
Only signals have the "authority" to raise speed limits in OR and not any speed posts ?

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Posted 13 March 2015 - 12:24 AM

View PostRogue, on 12 March 2015 - 11:38 PM, said:

Only signals have the "authority" to raise speed limits in OR and not any speed posts ?


This is the same in MSTS, to overwrite a reduced Signalspeed you need a other Signal with clear-state.
Often this is a hidden signal at the end of a station. But this hidden Signals are shown in the trackmonitor
This hidden Signal count also by the calculation of the SigNumClearAhead (...).

In OR exist now a "Signal" with the Signal Type SignalFnType ( SPEED )
http://www.elvastowe...ling-functions/
Replay #2 EXEMPLE 2
This SignalType does only overwrite a reduced signal-speedlimit.
In the Trackmonitor you see only the new speedlimit, but no signal.

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