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#741 User is offline   Traindude 

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Posted 10 February 2023 - 01:12 AM

Hi. For those of you who use RailDriver in conjunction with 3D cab-equipped locomotives: Have any of you guys been having trouble with RailDriver's throttle, reverser, brakes and headlight and wiper switches not working in 3D cab equipped locomotives? I have. It started happening after U2023.01.22-0351. All the other RailDriver buttons (Whistle, Bell, Sand, Driving Aids, View Controls, etc) work fine and I can still run any affected locomotives with a keyboard but it's a bit cumbersome and unnatural.

So far the only locomotives in my collection that are affected are my Challenger and the NAVS GE "70-Tonner" diesel switcher. These both have 3D cabs but no 2D cab. Can anyone else with a RailDriver download the NAVS 70 Tonner and verify that theirs is nonfunctional in this regard? Thanks!

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Posted 12 February 2023 - 01:50 PM

I'd suggest you first to fix the syntax errors in file Challenger_Test_Cab.cvf.

There are two types of errors that OR doesn't like (see logfile)
Error 1:
Graphic ( )

You must insert a reference to an .ace file there.
Error 2:
NumFrames ( 34 )

The NumFrames parameter requires three numbers and not only one.

I'm not sure that fixing this can solve your problem, but it's worth a try.

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Posted 12 February 2023 - 05:01 PM

View PostCsantucci, on 12 February 2023 - 01:50 PM, said:

I'd suggest you first to fix the syntax errors in file Challenger_Test_Cab.cvf.

There are two types of errors that OR doesn't like (see logfile)
Error 1:
Graphic ( )

You must insert a reference to an .ace file there.
Error 2:
NumFrames ( 34 )

The NumFrames parameter requires three numbers and not only one.

I'm not sure that fixing this can solve your problem, but it's worth a try.


I was under the assumption that since 3D cabs use shape files instead of *.ace files to animate the controls, a Graphic parameter for every control wasn't needed. However, following your suggestions I made a "placeholder.ace" graphic--just a 512 by 512 transparent image--just to see what it would do. Same thing with the NumFrames--since we're not dealing with 2D graphics, I assumed that we didn't need to define the "divisions" (the second and third numbers) so to speak.

In any case, your suggestions didn't help. The throttle, reverser, headlight and brakes still don't work with RailDriver.

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Posted 13 February 2023 - 02:09 AM

I can confirm that the problem is present also in other locomotives with 3D cab (I tried with a SOO GP7 377), using the actual Unstable release and the actual ORNYMG release.
The problem is not there in the actual testing release.
It's all OK with locomotives with 2D cab.

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Posted 13 February 2023 - 03:11 AM

View PostTraindude, on 12 February 2023 - 05:01 PM, said:

I was under the assumption that since 3D cabs use shape files instead of *.ace files to animate the controls, a Graphic parameter for every control wasn't needed. However, following your suggestions I made a "placeholder.ace" graphic--just a 512 by 512 transparent image--just to see what it would do. Same thing with the NumFrames--since we're not dealing with 2D graphics, I assumed that we didn't need to define the "divisions" (the second and third numbers) so to speak.

In any case, your suggestions didn't help. The throttle, reverser, headlight and brakes still don't work with RailDriver.


Hello.

Many others also started from this logic.
Luckily my vehicle also had a 2d cab from 2009. I just had to add a file like "placeholder.ace". Of course, I set all the parameters properly, even when the image file is completely transparent.
I always carefully count the entries and correct the check number in the CabViewControls line. Thus, 3d cab also works without errors and does not litter the LOG file.

Sincerely, Laci1959

PS: Unfortunately, until the OR changes, from this point of view, apparently unnecessary work has to be done.

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Posted 13 February 2023 - 04:44 AM

Traindude,
try applying following patch to ORNYMG Rev. 138
(see below for improved fix)

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Posted 13 February 2023 - 07:45 PM

View PostCsantucci, on 13 February 2023 - 04:44 AM, said:

Traindude,
try applying following patch to ORNYMG Rev. 138
Attachment Runactivity.zip


YES! The RailDriver throttle, brakes, headlight, wipers and reverser all do work with 3D cab-equipped locos!

However, in testing the NAVS GE 70 Ton diesel switcher, the wiper switch on the RailDriver will not turn off the wipers when moved all the way counterclockwise like it's supposed to. Instead, you have to not only move the switch all the way counterclockwise (at which point the wipers are still on), then move the switch clockwise, after which they finally turn off.

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Posted 14 February 2023 - 11:39 AM

Improved fix (does not solve the wiper issue)

See post below for further improvement.

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Posted 16 February 2023 - 04:17 AM

Doubly improved fix (solves also the wipers issue - fix by César)
Attached File  Runactivity.zip (1.33MB)
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Posted 17 February 2023 - 07:51 PM

View PostCsantucci, on 16 February 2023 - 04:17 AM, said:

Doubly improved fix (solves also the wipers issue - fix by César)
Attachment Runactivity.zip



Yes! It works!

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