[cjakeman]

 Walter Conklin, on 10 August 2013 - 06:20 AM, said:

What general criteria would you like the OR developers to eventually implement in OR to evaluate activity performance?

In the UK, passenger train operators pay fines for late arrival at the final destination only so the timetables include lots of recovery time in the last leg of the journey.

How about:

• amount of overspeed (an integral of excess speed and time?)
• amount of delay in every arrival (passenger, not freight)
• amount of excessive acceleration/braking along the track (again an integral of excess acceln. and time?)
• amount of excessive sideways acceleration

with the acceleration limits being defined in the activity?

[Csantucci]

- Check that the passenger trains stops completely within the Platform length (if the train length allows it)
- check that the passenger train does not start at stations before leave time
- check about speed when coupling cars
- check that train whistles at whistle points
- check that train does not retrocede when restarting at grades
- check that train does not start with not completely released brakes (except on grades...)
- check about too many or too long wheelslips

.... and so on for the poor engineer...

Moreover I would suggest to think about an evaluation for the dispatcher, especially in MP, but also in single player when there will be more dispatching functions available to the player.

[dforrest]

- The train stops at stations at which it is scheduled to stop.
- The train arrives at the station on or before time.
- In a freight activity, wagons are picked up and dropped off as required by the Work Order.
- The train reaches the completion point.
- The train does not exceed speed limits, or if it does, by how much and for how long.
- A freight activity (or other activity without set station stops) is completed within a time or time span set in the activity.

David

[captain_bazza]

Oh heck! No wonder I prefer 'explore mode'. :sweatingbullets:

Cheers Bazza

[dforrest]

 captain_bazza, on 10 August 2013 - 09:39 PM, said:

Oh heck! No wonder I prefer 'explore mode'. :sweatingbullets:

Cheers Bazza

I agree(?) that we should not make the reporting too complex. A simple report that the criteria of the activity were met, with details if they were not, should be sufficient.

David

[JorD1]

I agree, it shouldn't contain much more then msts did.
It would be nice to see the driven distance as additional info in the evaluation.
OR already measures this I saw under the F5 hud.

Jordi

[Lindsayts]

While I do have plenty of sympathy for the Captains view and as a consequnce I spend plenty of time is explore mode, the current situation for either MSTS or OR is not satisfactory. One would like to get at least something saying at least one completed all the tasks. A serious problem with MSTS is the "black and white" way its expressed particularly on speed violations.

In Victoria (Australia) my home state there is quite strict speed regulations on the railways but the powers to be allow a bit of lea way before anything is said. It being quite clear an allowance of 5kph over the limit is considered reasonable given the number of times one can time a pass exceeding a limit by this amount.

In a pass activity as time at stations is important a report on this would also be apreciated, but again this needs to be able to be set up to suit the railway system used. Again in Victoria the country pass's use a different defnition of on time to the Melbourne suburban network. Such different definitions would need to be taken into account when an activity is generated. Initially its probably another item to be set in the OR config panel.

Another interesting item to include would be the numbe of level crossing one did NOT give a warning whistle at, I find seeing crossing in either MSTS or OR is something of a challenge. In real life though the drivers are VERY aware of the need for a proper signal, NOT whistling at a crossing by a MAJOR no no.

Lindsay

[JorD1]

 Lindsayts, on 11 August 2013 - 01:53 PM, said:

Another interesting item to include would be the numbe of level crossing one did NOT give a warning whistle at, I find seeing crossing in either MSTS or OR is something of a challenge. In real life though the drivers are VERY aware of the need for a proper signal, NOT whistling at a crossing by a MAJOR no no.

Here a problem arises, that is not done in other countries. Here in the Netherlands it's only allowed to whistle to avoid danger, at a special sign with an F on it, and the test of the horn once a day (which is not allowed in urban area's).
In other countries it's also not usual to whistle at crossings.

Jordi

[cjakeman]

 Lindsayts, on 11 August 2013 - 01:53 PM, said:

Again in Victoria the country pass's use a different definition of on time to the Melbourne suburban network. Such different definitions would need to be taken into account when an activity is generated. Initially its probably another item to be set in the OR config panel.

Better as part of the activity definition than a setting in Menu > Options, I think.