[James Ross]

This looks like a problem with your "tsection.dat" file, with it having duplicated data in it. Perhaps try downloading the latest version (from trainsim.com or wherever, I expect it's got around a bit) and see if that fixes it.

[Lindsayts]

As a matter of interest what is the route?

Long routes are quite unusual due to the time it takes to build them but there are others, Adelaide hills and SE route (Australia) being one. This has 600 miles (1000 km) of main line. The longest single line being the main east west line to Victoria, the route ending at Kaniva, with the MT Gambier branch line coming off from Wolesley, total distance 305 miles (around 500 km). This route on the whole runs OK in OR.

Bye the way the author of the route said it took him 6000 hours to complete it. It has a good level of detail and is remarkably accurate, getting plenty of praise from old South Australian railwaymen.

[longiron]

helping son, on 20 May 2012 - 07:34 AM, said:

Big thanks that helped.

I have still troubles to run it from some points. But at least some parts now works. The rest will be I guess caused by the route itself. I will still post the other errors maybe there can be found something interesting and usefull.

Warning: TDB references track section not listed in global or dynamic TSECTION.D
AT: 373

Error: System.IO.InvalidDataException: The car is on a track section that could
not be found in the TDB file.
   v ORTS.TDBTraveller..ctor(Int32 tileX, Int32 tileZ, Single wx, Single wz, Int
32 direction, TDBFile tdb, TSectionDatFile tsectiondat)
   v ORTS.Simulator.InitializePlayerTrain()
   v ORTS.Simulator.InitializeTrains()
   v ORTS.Simulator.Start()
   v ORTS.Program.<>c__DisplayClass8.<Start>b__7()
   v ORTS.Program.Start(UserSettings settings, String[] args)
   v ORTS.ORTraceListener.TraceEventInternal(TraceEventCache eventCache, String
source, TraceEventType eventType, Int32 id, String format, Object[] args)
   v ORTS.ORTraceListener.TraceEvent(TraceEventCache eventCache, String source,
TraceEventType eventType, Int32 id, String format, Object[] args)
   v System.Diagnostics.TraceInternal.TraceEvent(TraceEventType eventType, Int32
id, String format, Object[] args)
   v System.Diagnostics.Trace.TraceError(String format, Object[] args)
   v ORTS.ORTraceListener.WriteLine(Object o)
   v System.Diagnostics.TraceInternal.WriteLine(Object value)
   v System.Diagnostics.Trace.WriteLine(Object value)
   v ORTS.Program.Start(UserSettings settings, String[] args)
   v ORTS.Program.Main(String[] args)

Some extra info - the set up route is about 700 km long. Total lenght of this route should be 1850 km - (not sure if it's usuall or not)

The length or size of the route is not your problem. OpenRails cannot find the track section used in the route (line 373 of your TDB) referenced in the TSECTION for the route. OpenRails aborts when trying to place a train on a track section that does not exist - according to OpenRails.

[longiron]

What TSECTION version are you using in your route? Please make sure you are using the most recent one.

[engmod]

What happens when you run one of the default routes?

[Matej Pacha]

I can say that many 3rd party routes are built in very odd way, using many "dark sides" of the MSTS. I usually run the Bratislava-Prague route (www.semora.cz/msts) without problems (up to rev.1004). Other czech or slovak routes are out, probably because of these "dark sides" which MSTS tolerates. The patience is the best solution - the team is working hard on many 3rd-party products' issues...

If you have access to the newest version of the ORTS, you should see this messsage (or similar). Before rev. 1004 this message doesn't appear (I will report the issue soon, James :D )

Error: System.IO.InvalidDataException: {TileX:-5483 TileZ:14794 X:584,074 Y:0 Z:-649,124} failed to initialize Traveller at track node 1.
   at ORTS.Traveller..ctor(TSectionDatFile tSectionDat, TrackNode[] trackNodes, TrackNode startTrackNode, Int32 tileX, Int32 tileZ, Single x, Single z)
   at ORTS.Traveller..ctor(TSectionDatFile tSectionDat, TrackNode[] trackNodes, TrackNode startTrackNode, Int32 tileX, Int32 tileZ, Single x, Single z, TravellerDirection direction)
   at ORTS.Signals.AddSignal(Int32 trackNode, Int32 nodeIndx, SignalItem sigItem, Int32 prevSignal, TrItem[] TrItems, TrackNode[] trackNodes, Int32 TDBRef, TSectionDatFile tsectiondat, TDBFile tdbfile)
   at ORTS.Signals.ScanSection(TrItem[] TrItems, TrackNode[] trackNodes, Int32 index, TSectionDatFile tsectiondat, TDBFile tdbfile)
   at ORTS.Signals.BuildSignalList(TrItem[] TrItems, TrackNode[] trackNodes, TSectionDatFile tsectiondat, TDBFile tdbfile)
   at ORTS.Signals..ctor(Simulator simulator, SIGCFGFile sigcfg)
   at ORTS.Simulator.Start()
   at ORTS.Program.<>c__DisplayClass8.<Start>b__7()
   at ORTS.Program.Start(UserSettings settings, String[] args)
   at ORTS.ORTraceListener.TraceEventInternal(TraceEventCache eventCache, String source, TraceEventType eventType, Int32 id, String format, Object[] args)
   at ORTS.ORTraceListener.TraceEvent(TraceEventCache eventCache, String source, TraceEventType eventType, Int32 id, String format, Object[] args)
   at System.Diagnostics.TraceInternal.TraceEvent(TraceEventType eventType, Int32 id, String format, Object[] args)
   at System.Diagnostics.Trace.TraceError(String format, Object[] args)
   at ORTS.ORTraceListener.WriteLine(Object o)
   at System.Diagnostics.TraceInternal.WriteLine(Object value)
   at System.Diagnostics.Trace.WriteLine(Object value)
   at ORTS.Program.Start(UserSettings settings, String[] args)
   at ORTS.Program.Main(String[] args)

[James Ross]

It's a shame the routes are so much work to purchase from the UK. :D

Matej, you may be able to get the route to load by increasing 'const float InitErrorMargin' in the Traveller a bit, though if it needs increasing too much we might need a different strategy.

[Matej Pacha]

I didn't experiment with it too much but the value 1.0f works fine (instead of 0.01f). Maybe it would help to have an option to change this value somewhere in the configuration.

[longiron]

What does changing this value effectively accomplish?