[Falcus]

Even if you can fool OR into not needing an MSTS install, I personally wouldn't recommend it. OR is still being worked on, and MSTS Routes/Rolling Stock have their own Foibles and Quirks which, without a working install of MSTS, you won't be able to fix/deal with in any kind of satisfactory way. My First stop right now when something doesn't work in OR is to boot up MSTS and see if it works in MSTS as a Test of the Stock/Route, if it doesn't, then there's probably something wrong with the equipment/Route, if it does then its possible that OR isn't at a point where it can deal with it yet, etc etc. OR is still playing catch up, and Im not sure how complete its error messages (This would be the difference between "Error, OR had to close" and "Error: Could not create Cabview, missing .CVF File", which is a CRITICAL piece of information for fixing the problem, and this is just one of DOZENS of errors that can screw up your desired Sim).

IIRC Ive heard that OR needs other things from an MSTS install anyway besides content File Paths (Particularly seeing as the latest OR version lets you pick your Content File Path), but others more knowledgeable then myself will have to answer that.

Anyway, GL,
Alex

[Genma Saotome]

If you do have a copy of MSTS and simply don't want to bother keeping it functional (i.e., for whatever reason you need/want to delete a variety of MSTS directories and files), what you do need to keep is \Global and \Routes with MS\Kuju stuff in both, plus any extra \global files, like Xtraks -- all that stuff that is commonly used in routes. AFAIK, everything else can be deleted.

OTOH, if you do not have MSTS at all then you need to find some routes that do not have any MS/Kuju shapes or textures in them and that might be hard to accomplish. The WP 3rd Sub from 3dtrains might qualify and European routes that use the UKFS and/or DR track shapes might also qualify.

[JeffBush]

Genma Saotome, on 31 July 2011 - 01:04 PM, said:

OTOH, if you do not have MSTS at all then you need to find some routes that do not have any MS/Kuju shapes or textures in them and that might be hard to accomplish. The WP 3rd Sub from 3dtrains might qualify and European routes that use the UKFS and/or DR track shapes might also qualify.

Any commercial route by law must meet this criteria, or they violate the Microsoft copyright. The challenge is getting the commercial route installed, since it will normally look for MSTS. Once its installed, OR will operate the route just fine without any reliance on MSTS content (subject to the qualifiers in earlier posts in this thread).

Jeff......................

[longiron]

Ulmer94, on 03 August 2011 - 01:27 PM, said:

We-ell, if I did want to try to fool it into thinking that I have MSTS installed, how would I go about that? I figure I'd probably need a dummy Program Files folder to start with, right?

That's correct, most installers will look for "Program Files/Microsoft Games/Microsoft Train Simulator" as the default folder location (assuming XP), but if the installer lets you select a folder, then it can be just about anything.

[johnfrum]

Ulmer94,

A tsection.dat file needs to be placed in your "C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Train Simulator\GLOBAL\" folder (as the error message states).

I would start by downloading XTracks, available at the following URL:

http://www.nklj.se/xtracks/

and installing it per the instructions. It includes a tsection.dat file.

Then try running the route in Open Rails again.

Let us know what happens.


-JF-