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#21 User is offline   ckawahara 

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Posted 31 July 2019 - 09:33 AM

Being a Raildriver user and not familiar with the ins and outs of the code, why can't the four "unstable" versions of OR be combined into a single "unstable" version (OR Testing, OR Testing Unstable, OR New Year MG, and OR MG Raildriver). Or at least combine the Monogame variants?

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Posted 03 August 2019 - 07:02 AM

View Postckawahara, on 31 July 2019 - 09:33 AM, said:

Being a Raildriver user and not familiar with the ins and outs of the code, why can't the four "unstable" versions of OR be combined into a single "unstable" version (OR Testing, OR Testing Unstable, OR New Year MG, and OR MG Raildriver). Or at least combine the Monogame variants?

There are three official versions of Open Rails:

  • Stable (1.3.1.4328, on openrails.org)
  • Testing (X1.3.1-72-g2db3f076, on openrails.org)
  • Unstable (U2019.07.29-1921, on james-ross.co.uk)

Each level down includes more new code, which may have had less testing and be more buggy, but also contains new features and improvements. Only the third one in the list is called "unstable".

Additionally, other people have made their own unofficial versions of Open Rails:

  • OR New Year MG - similar to the latest Unstable but with even more new code
  • ORTS MG RD "Ultimate" - similar to OR New Year MG but with a new RailDriver implementation

In terms of merging versions together, I do not think we want less than the three official versions - they now provide a good balance of stability and latest features. The new format for the official unstable version means it will actually be less stable than, but also contain more features than, the testing version.

As for the unofficial versions, we are putting a lot of effort into bringing their features and bug fixes into the official versions, but it's not a straightforward task. The people maintaining the unofficial versions, and those contributing features to them, have their own motivations and we all need to get things aligned so that as much as possible can become official.

Whilst it is not ideal for people trying to choose a version, this is the nature and a key benefit of open source - anyone can take the code and make their own version, with whatever changes the like. What we in ORMT are trying to do, is to make it as attractive as possible for putting code in the official versions on openrails.org. Progress is being made but the unofficial versions will not (and should not) disappear overnight.

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Posted 03 August 2019 - 08:22 AM

Thank you James.

Looking forward to the inclusion of Raildriver support in the future. It's the build I use the most.

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Posted 06 August 2019 - 12:49 AM

View Postckawahara, on 31 July 2019 - 09:33 AM, said:

Being a Raildriver user and not familiar with the ins and outs of the code, why can't the four "unstable" versions of OR be combined into a single "unstable" version (OR Testing, OR Testing Unstable, OR New Year MG, and OR MG Raildriver). Or at least combine the Monogame variants?


beyond what James mentioned, one may also see OR MG Raildriver as the most complete/advanced option. It includes all the changes from Carlos OR "New Year" MG, as well the changes from official OR unstable, along with many other changes not available in any other version.

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Posted 06 August 2019 - 06:33 AM

Thank you for your work on this version -- it's good to see OR evolving and modernizing!

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Posted 07 September 2019 - 04:15 AM

View PostJames Ross, on 03 August 2019 - 07:02 AM, said:

There are three official versions of Open Rails:

  • Stable (1.3.1.4328, on openrails.org)
  • Testing (X1.3.1-72-g2db3f076, on openrails.org)
  • Unstable (U2019.07.29-1921, on james-ross.co.uk)


Sorry for being confused but how do I switch between XNA Open Rails and Monogame Open Rails?

Do I need two separate folders containing different versions of Open Rails?

Thanks,

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Posted 07 September 2019 - 05:05 AM

View Postcjakeman, on 07 September 2019 - 04:15 AM, said:

Sorry for being confused but how do I switch between XNA Open Rails and Monogame Open Rails?


If anything, if you are confused as one of the principles, imagine what it is like for the public at large!

I think that having a "U" to denote an unstable Monogame version that is supposedly a true 64 bit application is a little spartan. Why not have something more meaningful?

U = Unstable
M = Monogame
32 = 32 bit
64 = 64 bit

"UM32.64" prefix instead of "U"?

Personally, I keep XNA and Monogame versions in two different directories.

Steve

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Posted 07 September 2019 - 06:36 AM

Hi,

Can any one give me the link to the Monogame version? Thank you.

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Posted 07 September 2019 - 08:04 AM

Is this the version you are interested in?

http://www.elvastowe...-or-newyear-mg/

Or this version?

https://github.com/p...ualKid/ORTS-MG/

ADMIN: Link edit to fix broken link

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Posted 07 September 2019 - 10:07 AM

your second link to the ORTS-MG is dead ending at a 404 error

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