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Open letter to Csantucci. Transfer Tables (Transversers) Rate Topic: -----

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Posted 18 February 2017 - 09:51 AM

At present No other form of animations are possible for those gadgets.

I would like to see working intermodal/shop cranes and freight car movers like this one. My link and My link 2

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Posted 24 April 2018 - 08:50 PM

Csantucci, Does it matter which Tsection.dat the transfer table is in? I am planning on adding one to the Xtracks setup and Tsection.dat 52.

Hopefully once a so called default transfer table is available it will function from the main Global Tsection.dat?

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Posted 25 April 2018 - 09:11 AM

If you insert a transfer table within what would become an updated version of tsection.dat, that transfer table would work when laid down in a route (provided the related turntables.dat file is present within the route's OpenRails subfolder).

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Posted 27 April 2018 - 04:12 PM

Hello All,

It's quite pleasing that you all have taken an interest in a shape that I made.

I'm out of the loop on Open Rail terminology and all. Would some one explain to me, in small words and big letters, what needs to be done to the transfer table shapes, in order for them to be functional?

Should I merely animate the table, with each track position being a separate frame?

Thank you for any explanation.

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Posted 27 April 2018 - 07:27 PM

James, I would highly recommend reading the turntable pages. The basic requirements for a shape are very similar.

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Posted 28 April 2018 - 02:55 PM

James, I think basically the base needs to be the parent and the table needs it's own Nod and to be animated. Me and Travis are both willing to try and help get this thing going.

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Posted 05 May 2018 - 06:08 PM

Please look over this updated shape for a 30m transfer table.

The pit is the parent object, and the transfer table is the sub-object. I did put in 3 frames of animation. Frame 1 has the table at the Track 1 position, Frame 2 has the table at Track 9, and Frame 3 returns the table to Track 1.

Please let me know of any alterations which are needed. Either through Elvas Tower, or through my email, which I listed within the files.

As a forewarning, I'm limited to weekends to work on this, and, I'm rather unfamiliar with programming terms, and of OR terms. I did not upgrade from MSTS.

Thank you.

James

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Posted 07 May 2018 - 07:25 AM

James (inflammable),
what you have done is very useful and allows now easy insertion of a transfertable within routes, thank you! I inserted your transfertable in a test route using TSRE5 with no problems. I had instead to work a bit to have it running. I had to generalize the OR code for transfertables with initial X offset different from zero, and this is now committed in x.4133.
Then I had to modify the Animations() block within the transfertable's shape from
	animations ( 1
		animation ( 2 30
			anim_nodes ( 2
				anim_node PIT (
					controllers ( 0 )
				)
				anim_node TRANSFERBRIDGE (
					controllers ( 2
						tcb_rot ( 3
							tcb_key ( 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 )
							tcb_key ( 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 )
							tcb_key ( 2 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 )
						)
						linear_pos ( 3
							linear_key ( 0 -19.940001 0 0 )
							linear_key ( 1 19.940001 0 0 )
							linear_key ( 2 -19.940001 0 0 )
						)
					)
				)
			)
		)
	)


to

	animations ( 1
		animation ( 3600 30
			anim_nodes ( 2
				anim_node PIT (
					controllers ( 0 )
				)
				anim_node TRANSFERBRIDGE (
					controllers ( 1
						linear_pos ( 2
							linear_key ( 0 -19.940001 0 0 )
							linear_key ( 3600 19.940001 0 0 )
						)
					)
				)
			)
		)
	)


For the sake of clarity the modified .s file is attached here
Attached File  L36_XfrTbl9Tr30mOR.zip (59.69K)
Number of downloads: 318

Three files are needed in the Openrails subfolder of the route's folder, that is the additional .trk file to point to the transfertable's sound file, the turntables.dat file and the additional tsection.dat file with the TrackShape() block.
Note that the additional tsection.dat file must be present BEFORE adding the transfertable in the route using TSRE5.
I selected as TrackShape ID 37300, which is free within tsection.dat release 52 (the last one). It would be nice if this additional TrackShape block could become part of a new standard tsection.dat release; this would allow insertion of the shape file also with the MSTS RE, and the shape would be visible (but not operational) also in MSTS; if another TrackShape ID is preferred by Derek, that can be done.
These three files can be found in the attached test route with test activity .zip file, that must be decompressed within the Train Simulator folder.
Attached File  Train Simulator_transfertable.zip (4.23MB)
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9/5/2018: test route with newer version of shapefile

And here a picture of a transferred engine
Attached Image: Transfertable.jpg

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Posted 07 May 2018 - 12:26 PM

The model will have rails added to the bridge deck soon. Me and James are working on both this transfer table and a turntable for ORTS.

Both will be committed to release as separate objects and as an updated Xtracks pack several weeks from now.

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Posted 08 May 2018 - 08:03 PM

I'm pleased that you are finding it helpful!

Here is an updated Shape file. I added rails to the transfer bridge, and removed some unnecessary polygons from the underside of the shape.

I went ahead and edited the Animation parameters in accordance with the above code. The Train Sim Exporter of Gmax adds in the tcb_rot parameters, but I suspect that you know much more about that than I.

Please let me know if it needs to be modified further.

Thank you,

James

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