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steamer_ctn, on 09 August 2016 - 11:00 PM, said:

I don't quite understand.

It should only apply once along the length of the train, and not multiple times for each locomotive. The leakage figure quoted of 5psi/min is for the total train length regardless of length.

Is this a double headed train?

Can you describe the scenario and the problem that you are seeing so that I can attempt to duplicate the issue.

Thanks for the feedback.

I got video footage but will upload later but I can point to something as a tip to see the problem an difference.

Use steps bellow using X3586 & then X3902

1. Run the default Dash 9 on a long huge freight train close to at least 7000 feet.

2. Release the train brakes completely charged 90PSI.

3. Set them back up to continues service putting the handle quickly to it an watch both how the EQ/ER an BP perform even when you release them.

You should see what I mean unless I get the video uploaded when I get home of both experimental test videos with option "Correct questionable braking parameters" un checked in English.

With or without parameters in Engine section using ORTSBrakePipeTimeFactor or ORTSBrakeServiceTimeFactor I don't get the delay time like before.

[steamer_ctn]

Icik, on 09 August 2016 - 03:41 AM, said:

It is not problem just in Czech language. I´m trying also German(Deutsch) language and make it the same.

Hopefully this has been resolved in #3603.

Please check and confirm.

Other issue is still being investigated.

Thanks

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Here are the videos an what I am pointing to as I am looking to have a way to keep the performance as X3586 along with various flow rates offered by ORTS Time factors even though both these videos are just of a regular train with no OR Parameters.

X3586 BP/ER Test

X3602 BP/ER Test

[copperpen]

ORTSBrakePipeTimeFactor and ORTSBrakeServiceTimeFactor do not seem to exist in the OR manual, so I am just wondering where they came from, and how they are used.

[Icik]

steamer_ctn, on 10 August 2016 - 06:31 PM, said:

Hopefully this has been resolved in #3603.

Please check and confirm.

Other issue is still being investigated.

Thanks

It seems to be working fine.

Good job!

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copperpen, on 11 August 2016 - 06:29 AM, said:

ORTSBrakePipeTimeFactor and ORTSBrakeServiceTimeFactor do not seem to exist in the OR manual, so I am just wondering where they came from, and how they are used.

Seams people have ignored me in past posts not caring but I have researched it an found it in a old Manuel ENG file where some may have not paid attention to spotting. But I will not repeat the effects of what parameters I found & put to the test with good results matching real life happenings an seeing while aboard trains in the cabs like during air tests at work.

Looks like I will for another time motivated in decision making share my ORTS subfolder of various NA locomotives with reference tips per parameter an how I use them since I agree that no one has interest to give good info in the Manuel.

[copperpen]

Found the usage reference in a manual from 3 years ago.

[steamer_ctn]

ATW, on 11 August 2016 - 05:46 AM, said:

Here are the videos an what I am pointing to as I am looking to have a way to keep the performance as X3586 along with various flow rates offered by ORTS Time factors even though both these videos are just of a regular train with no OR Parameters.

I can't view these videos as they are "private".

Are they small enough to PM or email to me?

Thanks

[ATW]

steamer_ctn, on 11 August 2016 - 01:26 PM, said:

I can't view these videos as they are "private".

Are they small enough to PM or email to me?

Thanks

Wierd.... Try now I made public.

[steamer_ctn]

ATW, on 10 August 2016 - 08:20 AM, said:

I got video footage but will upload later but I can point to something as a tip to see the problem an difference.

Use steps bellow using X3586 & then X3902

1. Run the default Dash 9 on a long huge freight train close to at least 7000 feet.

2. Release the train brakes completely charged 90PSI.

3. Set them back up to continues service putting the handle quickly to it an watch both how the EQ/ER an BP perform even when you release them.

You should see what I mean unless I get the video uploaded when I get home of both experimental test videos with option "Correct questionable braking parameters" un checked in English.

With or without parameters in Engine section using ORTSBrakePipeTimeFactor or ORTSBrakeServiceTimeFactor I don't get the delay time like before.

I had a look at the videos, but I am still struggling to understand the issue that you are highlighting.

Can we agree a consistent test process so that I can investigate the code with a known set of conditions?

I could only find #3596 easily on the "old versions", so I am using that as the before test. I will use #3603 as the after test.

I will use unmodified default rolling stock.

So based upon your earlier comments the proposed test is as follows:

Test Consist: Default "Dash 9, 50 Chemical" cars (Single Dash 9 and 50 cars)

Location: Starting at Whitefish.

Test Steps: i) Release brake completely, ii) Move brake lever to Continuous Brake Setting ASAP.

Use the Advanced Brake Information HUD to see the problem.

So can you please run the above before and after tests yourself, and then send me the following:
i) Open Rails Log File - so that I ensure my test settings are the same
ii) Describe in more detail the problem that you are seeing in reference to the main and the Advanced Brake Information HUD. (Is it only on application or release as well?)

Thanks