[Laci1959]

jared2982, on 21 February 2020 - 08:10 AM, said:

I would propose a simplier key command for the controls.

SHIFT + W = Fence up or to the right if already up with more than one DP set
SHIFT + S = Fence to the left of down
SHIFT + D = Throttle up \ dynamic down
SHIFT + A = Throttle down \ dynamic up

The last two working similar to the combined control throttle handle that is available in OR now which allows the use of the A and D keys to move from throttle to dynamic braking. To me it seems like the controls would be very simple if set up this way.

Then is Cruise Control forgotten? Is that development over? It was these combinations that he used.

[Johndeere]

Bom dia muito obrigado, havendo progresso nos trabalhos compartilho com vocês. Muito obrigado

[ATW]

Will this ever make the testing stages?

[ATW]

ebnertra000, on 21 March 2020 - 08:01 AM, said:

Based on the engine number (UP 8581), I would guess it's an SD70ACe

Yep thats correct.

[Diter258r]

any progress friends?

[Csantucci]

Is cruise control used when running with DPU controls? Or is cruise control usually disabled in this case?

[pschlik]

There are cruise control adjacent systems that function totally fine with distributed power, and according to the GEVO manual, even slow speed control still functions when the train has distributed power. However, the manual does say that (unlike standard slow speed control) the throttle only needs to be in notch 1 and the locomotive will automatically figure out how much power to use to maintain speed, even if more power is needed than notch 1. (Normally, I believe the slow speed control power will never exceed the current throttle setting.)

[Csantucci]

Thanks.
Taking as reference figure 49 of the manual linked here http://www.elvastowe...post__p__175705 I understand that the vertical green lines define the locomotive groups as explained here http://www.elvastowe...post__p__175745 . But I don't see the "fence" displayed between front and back groups. Isn't it displayed? How does the train driver see where the fence is?

[superheatedsteam]

Csantucci, on 28 October 2021 - 01:59 AM, said:

But I don't see the "fence" displayed between front and back groups. Isn't it displayed? How does the train driver see where the fence is?

The driver chooses when and where to put the fence up. Fence only required if you want to control the remote units independent of the lead loco controls. You can have more than 1 fence if you have more than one set of DPU units.

There is a DPU setup tutorial on youtube for the Run8 Simulator that may shed some more light on this.

https://www.youtube....h?v=bjj-A36bYeA
Setting Up Distributed Power Units (DPU) and Starting A Train On A Grade With DPUs

Cheers,

Marek.

[Csantucci]

Thanks Marek,
so I learnt the following from the video:
1) the fence is shown with the green vertical bar on the monitor;
2) A, B, C and so on aren't single locomotives, but the leads of every set of DPU units. (I hope I'm right here)

What I don't understand is how to set up more than a fence. If I read the ES44DC manual I see that in figure 49 there are two fences shown. Hovewer in the manual only front and back group are defined, and there are only the Move to front and Move to back commands. What would be the sequence to generate more than one fence, if you can only move DPU sets from front to back or vice-versa?

[ATW]

Yea A, B, C etc are not single locomotives but controlling remote units an are MU connected to what ever units they attached to.

Scrolling the green bar to each different set to give them commands is fence up. So putting the fence down no green bar then every set will set to what the lead units command is.

There are multiple functions an performances a DPU has but linking, de linking or putting a DPU in setout mode are 3 options for communication retaining whether attached or not attached. Set out mode is when DPU will be left standing while leader or other DPU attached to leader are doing switching moves. De linking just removes a DPU from the group as linking is adding to the group.

[akioyamamura]

Csantucci, on 28 October 2021 - 05:33 AM, said:

Thanks Marek,
so I learnt the following from the video:
1) the fence is shown with the green vertical bar on the monitor;
2) A, B, C and so on aren't single locomotives, but the leads of every set of DPU units. (I hope I'm right here)

What I don't understand is how to set up more than a fence. If I read the ES44DC manual I see that in figure 49 there are two fences shown. Hovewer in the manual only front and back group are defined, and there are only the Move to front and Move to back commands. What would be the sequence to generate more than one fence, if you can only move DPU sets from front to back or vice-versa?

"2) A, B, C and so on aren't single locomotives, but the leads of every set of DPU units. (I hope I'm right here)" . That's right, Carlo! In the majority of situations you only link 1 locomotive per block of locomotives.

I read ES44 too, but in real life it doesn't have two fences, at least in Brazil. The lead locomotive controls every locomotive from the fence to the left. And the driver can control the others block from the fence to the right with the keyboard. It's not possible control a "middle block" separately.

https://www.youtube....qTcbnG6o&t=851s

At 22:45 the operator explain, unfortunately in portuguese, how the fence works. However you can see how the locomotive display works with the fence.

[Diter258r]

some videos about locotrol MU

https://www.youtube....GP7TQRdHQ&t=28s

https://www.youtube....h?v=6azh_quuyUk

[superheatedsteam]

From the Archives: World Record breaking train (2001)
https://www.youtube....h?v=Tz4djk6UaE0

AT 3:49 minutes you can see one of the screens on the lead AC6000CW displaying the DPU layout for the lead and 4 remote units.

Cheers,

Marek.

[Diter258r]

https://www.youtube....h?v=jcqahSSu4YA


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