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#1 User is offline   shadowmane 

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Posted 14 April 2024 - 06:02 PM

Just today, I have had problems with Open Rails. I have the MSTS install and the Somerset and Dorset Joint Railway Mini-Route installed, as well as others. When I go to any of the other installs, they load up regularly. However, when I try to load the MSTS install or the SDJR install, none of the rolling stock shows up. I can't run an activity or anything. Anyone else having this issue?

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Posted 14 April 2024 - 07:04 PM

It's possible something is wrong with the install folder, or the Open Rails settings. Check the folder in Open Rails -> Options -> Content (could help if you share a screenshot) to verify that the settings for your SDJR are pointing to the correct location on your hard drive. And also go into file explorer to see if SDJR is actually installed where you think it should be. Could be something as simple as OpenRails thinking its on the D: drive but it's actually on the C: drive, or as awful as the install folder being deleted by windows doing something strange (hope it's not that).

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Posted 14 April 2024 - 08:04 PM

What is the exact folder that you have everything installed in?

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Posted 14 April 2024 - 11:51 PM

have you made consist file e.g Tsre5? for that rolling stock. if not it wouldn't have been shown up in or to do this download from here 7d7f7f559638899

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Posted 15 April 2024 - 05:04 PM

I keep everything but the MSTS install in a folder called "Train Data". The only change I've made is I've pointed Github at a directory in there for New Forest Route. But that shouldn't effect the MSTS install, or any other route for that matter. It's crazy that it's just those two.

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Posted 15 April 2024 - 05:09 PM

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/903811357533667389/1229599216586719322/Screenshot_2024-04-15_210611.png?ex=66304482&is=661dcf82&hm=6508b463c60c3fb763ed629a11d03266d6e0ae5cc143ae1ca2095293d534f56b&

Here is the options menu.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1040440775105855531/1229599790875148409/image.png?ex=6630450b&is=661dd00b&hm=4784b9e67a4ae4b183de2fd83f4869f0a0beec484b180dd018a9737fc3a463f7&

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Posted 15 April 2024 - 05:17 PM

I fixed the MSTS problem. It was pointed at the wrong directory. But the Somerset and Dorset still won't show anything. Here's the directory it's in:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1040440775105855531/1229601484203753542/Screenshot_2024-04-15_211646.png?ex=6630469e&is=661dd19e&hm=9fe7c4df58e53b43d954c31b67a190caa50467334d1a62cd65584dbf01e5d9ea&

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Posted 15 April 2024 - 05:45 PM

I wonder what would happen if I removed all of the MSTS fluff from the SDJR folder and went with just the stuff Open Rails is looking for. Do you think that might work?

View PostWeter, on 15 April 2024 - 06:22 PM, said:

I think, it's not important - whether there will be MSTS stuff, or not.
Global directory should be just at the folder, You've pointed in Options.
So You could show to us C:\TrainData\SDJR folder's structure, if You would.



Here you go:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1040440775105855531/1229931482559025255/image.png?ex=663179f4&is=661f04f4&hm=561e5a201747d2307e35ed5c5f23229bb363a9a9f0b2871b4781defdf8d9945b&

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Posted 16 April 2024 - 03:27 PM

At this point it appears you do have the route but don't have any consists and/or locomotives. What's inside C:\Train Data\SDJR\TRAINS\CONSISTS and C:\Train Data\SDJR\TRAINS\TRAINSET?

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Posted 16 April 2024 - 05:10 PM

They have the consists and the rolling stock that came with the DVD Rom I bought from Clive Heard on UKTrainSim. I still have the DVD Rom in the drawer beside my computer, even though I don't have a DVD drive to use it. I had to get an old computer and copy the DVD to my NAS so I could install it on my Windows 11 machine.

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Posted 16 April 2024 - 06:12 PM

Hello.
Thanks; dir's structure looks right... ORTS log should tell something.
Ususlly, in case of some missings or errors, Menu shows <locomotive not found> or so in appropriate fields, but in Your case - it doesn't...

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Posted 16 April 2024 - 07:08 PM

View Postshadowmane, on 15 April 2024 - 05:45 PM, said:

I wonder what would happen if I removed all of the MSTS fluff from the SDJR folder and went with just the stuff Open Rails is looking for. Do you think that might work?

No. Open Rails is can be pointed to a MSTS installation....all it is looking for are four folders and sub folders
GLOBAL
SOUND
ROUTES\ subfolders containing individual routes
TRAINS\Trainset and Consists subfolders

My guess is that you have mistakenly misdirected OR .... go to the Options\Content Tab and look at the entry in question and see what the path is.

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Posted 17 April 2024 - 05:09 AM

The path is right.

I moved the entire SDJR folder to another folder to see if it still does it. Still no dice.

Apparently, it is reading the Global and Routes folder because the route is showing up. However, it isn't reading the Trains folder because none of the locomotives or consists are showing up.

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Posted 17 April 2024 - 05:42 AM

Hi shadowmane,
You didn't tell us HOW you ended up with the GLOBAL, ROUTE, SOUND and TRAINS folders !
If you used the supplied installer, it is installed as a miniroute, controlled by Mike Simpson's Mini-Loader. This acts in a similar manner to TrainStore to reduce the 'load' on MSTS. As soon as Mini-Loader is run, all the activities and consists have their file extensions set to '.off'. The user selects an activity to run and its extension, together with those of all the consists used by that activity, are changed to '.act' and '.con' respectively so that they can be 'seen' by MSTS.

Could it be that, after you'd installed the route, you ran Mini-Loader before copying the folders into your Open Rails installation?

Mini-Loader contains a function to restore the correct extension to each activity and consist file (<Unstore All>).

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Posted 17 April 2024 - 06:04 AM

Actually, I did run the mini-loader the other night to see if it worked in Windows 11. I wonder if I hit a button by mistake. I went into the mini-loader and hit unstore all. Now it works. Thanks. I was racking my brain on this one and couldn't figure out why it wasn't seeing the Trains directory.

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