Problem with Traction tables

Hello,

I have a problem with ORTSTractionTable

The train must have 6 Trottlesteps ( 7 with zero included )

Problem is that this train have on step 1 and 2 on +/- 30km/h and 60km/h by higer speed no tension.

Step 1 is siding/shunting speed, after +/- 30km/h traction fals to zero.

Step 2 is Series/vitesse1 after 60km/h traction falls down

Step 3 i SeriesParalell

Step 4 and 5 are powersteps (electric injection/boost)

I have try with this tables:

	ORTSTractionCharacteristics (	33	7			
		throttle (  	0	0,20	0,40	0,60	0,80	1,00	)
		table (	
			0km/h	0,00kN	58,84kN	58,84kN	58,84kN	58,84kN	58,84kN
			25km/h	0,00kN	58,84kN	58,84kN	58,84kN	58,84kN	58,84kN
			30km/h	0,00kN	12,26kN	43,15kN	58,84kN	58,84kN	58,84kN
			34km/h	0,00kN	00,00kN	31,39kN	58,84kN	58,84kN	58,84kN
			35km/h	0,00kN	00,00kN	27,46kN	58,84kN	58,84kN	58,84kN
			38km/h	0,00kN	00,00kN	23,54kN	58,84kN	58,84kN	58,84kN
			39km/h	0,00kN	00,00kN	19,62kN	58,84kN	58,84kN	58,84kN
			40km/h	0,00kN	00,00kN	17,65kN	58,84kN	58,84kN	58,84kN
			43km/h	0,00kN	00,00kN	15,70kN	58,84kN	58,84kN	58,84kN
			48km/h	0,00kN	00,00kN	11,77kN	58,84kN	58,84kN	58,84kN
			50km/h	0,00kN	00,00kN	10,79kN	58,84kN	58,84kN	58,84kN
			58km/h	0,00kN	00,00kN	8,34kN	54,92kN	58,84kN	58,84kN
			60km/h	0,00kN	00,00kN	7,85kN	49,04kN	55,90kN	55,90kN
			63km/h	0,00kN	00,00kN	00,00kN 47,08kN	58,84kN	58,84kN
			64km/h	0,00kN	00,00kN	00,00kN 43,15kN	58,84kN	58,84kN
			65km/h	0,00kN	00,00kN	00,00kN 37,27kN	58,84kN	58,84kN
			67km/h	0,00kN	00,00kN	00,00kN 35,31kN	58,84kN	58,84kN
			68km/h	0,00kN	00,00kN	00,00kN 31,39kN	43,15kN	43,15kN
			70km/h	0,00kN	00,00kN	00,00kN 28,44kN	43,15kN	43,15kN
			72km/h	0,00kN	00,00kN	00,00kN 27,46kN	43,15kN	43,15kN
			74km/h	0,00kN	00,00kN	00,00kN 23,54kN	43,15kN	43,15kN
			75km/h	0,00kN	00,00kN	00,00kN 22,56kN	43,15kN	43,15kN
			77km/h	0,00kN	00,00kN	00,00kN 22,56kN	43,15kN	43,15kN
			78km/h	0,00kN	00,00kN	00,00kN 19,62kN	39,23kN	39,23kN
			80km/h	0,00kN	00,00kN	00,00kN 18,64kN	37,27kN	37,27kN
			82km/h	0,00kN	00,00kN	00,00kN 18,64kN	35,31kN	35,31kN
			85km/h	0,00kN	00,00kN	00,00kN 15,70kN	31,38kN	31,38kN
			90km/h	0,00kN	00,00kN	00,00kN 13,73kN	27,45kN	27,45kN
			95km/h	0,00kN	00,00kN	00,00kN 11,77kN	23,54kN	23,54kN
			100km/h	0,00kN	00,00kN	00,00kN 10,79kN	20,60kN	20,60kN
			102km/h	0,00kN	00,00kN	00,00kN 9,81kN	19,62kN	19,62kN
			120km/h	0,00kN	00,00kN	00,00kN 8,83kN	15,70kN	15,70kN
			200km/h	0,00kN	00,00kN	00,00kN 00,00kN	00,00kN 00,00kN
		)				
	)

	ORTSTractionCharacteristics (	33	7			
		throttle (  	0	0,20	0,40	0,60	0,80	1,00	)
		table (				
			0km/h	0,00kN	58,84kN	58,84kN	58,84kN	58,84kN	58,84kN
			25km/h	0,00kN	58,84kN	58,84kN	58,84kN	58,84kN	58,84kN
			30km/h	0,00kN	12,26kN	43,15kN	58,84kN	58,84kN	58,84kN
			34km/h	0,00kN	12,26kN	31,39kN	58,84kN	58,84kN	58,84kN
			35km/h	0,00kN	12,26kN	27,46kN	58,84kN	58,84kN	58,84kN
			38km/h	0,00kN	1,26kN	23,54kN	58,84kN	58,84kN	58,84kN
			39km/h	0,00kN	1,26kN	19,62kN	58,84kN	58,84kN	58,84kN
			40km/h	0,00kN	1,26kN	17,65kN	58,84kN	58,84kN	58,84kN
			43km/h	0,00kN	1,26kN	15,70kN	58,84kN	58,84kN	58,84kN
			48km/h	0,00kN	1,26kN	11,77kN	58,84kN	58,84kN	58,84kN
			50km/h	0,00kN	1,26kN	10,79kN	58,84kN	58,84kN	58,84kN
			58km/h	0,00kN	1,26kN	8,34kN	54,92kN	58,84kN	58,84kN
			60km/h	0,00kN	1,26kN	7,85kN	49,04kN	55,90kN	55,90kN
			63km/h	0,00kN	1,26kN	7,80kN 47,08kN	58,84kN	58,84kN
			64km/h	0,00kN	1,26kN	1,85kN 43,15kN	58,84kN	58,84kN
			65km/h	0,00kN	1,26kN	1,85kN 37,27kN	58,84kN	58,84kN
			67km/h	0,00kN	1,26kN	1,85kN 35,31kN	58,84kN	58,84kN
			68km/h	0,00kN	1,26kN	1,85kN 31,39kN	43,15kN	43,15kN
			70km/h	0,00kN	1,26kN	1,85kN 28,44kN	43,15kN	43,15kN
			72km/h	0,00kN	1,26kN	1,85kN 27,46kN	43,15kN	43,15kN
			74km/h	0,00kN	1,26kN	1,85kN 23,54kN	43,15kN	43,15kN
			75km/h	0,00kN	1,26kN	1,85kN 22,56kN	43,15kN	43,15kN
			77km/h	0,00kN	1,26kN	1,85kN 22,56kN	43,15kN	43,15kN
			78km/h	0,00kN	1,26kN	1,85kN 19,62kN	39,23kN	39,23kN
			80km/h	0,00kN	1,26kN	1,85kN 18,64kN	37,27kN	37,27kN
			82km/h	0,00kN	1,26kN	1,85kN 18,64kN	35,31kN	35,31kN
			85km/h	0,00kN	1,26kN	1,85kN 15,70kN	31,38kN	31,38kN
			90km/h	0,00kN	1,26kN	1,85kN 13,73kN	27,45kN	27,45kN
			95km/h	0,00kN	1,26kN	1,85kN 11,77kN	23,54kN	23,54kN
			100km/h	0,00kN	1,26kN	1,85kN 10,79kN	20,60kN	20,60kN
			102km/h	0,00kN	1,26kN	1,85kN 9,81kN	19,62kN	19,62kN
			120km/h	0,00kN	1,26kN	1,85kN 8,83kN	15,70kN	15,70kN
			200km/h	0,00kN	1,00kN	1,00kN 1,00kN	1,00kN 1,00kN
		)				
	)

Throttlecode:


	EngineControllers (
		Throttle (
			0 1.0 0.20 0 
			NumNotches (
				6
				Notch ( 0.00 0 Dummy )
				Notch ( 0.20 0 Dummy )
				Notch ( 0.40 0 Dummy )
				Notch ( 0.60 0 Dummy )
				Notch ( 0.80 0 Dummy )	
				Notch ( 1.00 0 Dummy )			
			)
		)

In Openrails the train wil not go higher than +/- 40kmh when i change to next Throttlestep.

When i go too Throttlestep 1 the ampérneedle go directly too full scalerange.

Have someone idea what is wrong?

In advance thanks,

Hello,

On CZ group and ORTSCZ Engineering i have see that they make the tables not with , but with .
And with 4 SPACE's and not with TAB between column's.

So i have replace the , with . and replace the tab key with 4 space keys

Before i was use a Excel thumbnail for this Tractiontables where you must typ value's see diagram, and copy a colored ( grey ) area for paste in .eng file.

I have replace with this table:


	Type 							( Electric )
	MaxPower 						( 367.5kW )
	MaxForce 						( 58.84kN )
	MaxContinuousForce 					( 58.84kN )
	MaxCurrent 						( 300A )
	WheelRadius 						( 1.010m )
	Sanding 						( 1e9mph )
	NumWheels 						( 4 )
	ORTSNumberDriveAxles					( 2 )
	ORTSDriveWheelWeight 					( 45t )
	MaxVelocity 						( 150kmh )

ORTSTractionCharacteristics (   33   6                                       
   throttle (      0   0.25   0.50   0.75   1.00   )
   table ( 						
      0km/h   0.00kN   58.84kN   58.84kN   58.84kN   58.84kN	
      25km/h   0.00kN   58.84kN   58.84kN   58.84kN   58.84kN	
      30km/h   0.00kN   12.26kN   43.15kN   58.84kN   58.84kN	
      34km/h   0.00kN   6.13kN   31.39kN   58.84kN   58.84kN	
      35km/h   0.00kN   0.00kN   27.46kN   58.84kN   58.84kN	
      38km/h   0.00kN   0.00kN   23.54kN   58.84kN   58.84kN	
      39km/h   0.00kN   0.00kN   19.62kN   58.84kN   58.84kN	
      40km/h   0.00kN   0.00kN   17.65kN   58.84kN   58.84kN	
      43km/h   0.00kN   0.00kN   15.70kN   58.84kN   58.84kN	
      48km/h   0.00kN   0.00kN   11.77kN   58.84kN   58.84kN	
      50km/h   0.00kN   0.00kN   10.79kN   58.84kN   58.84kN	
      58km/h   0.00kN   0.00kN   8.34kN   54.92kN   58.84kN	
      60km/h   0.00kN   0.00kN   7.85kN   49.04kN   55.90kN	
      63km/h   0.00kN   0.00kN   7.80kN   47.08kN   58.84kN	
      64km/h   0.00kN   0.00kN   0.00kN   43.15kN   58.84kN	
      65km/h   0.00kN   0.00kN   0.00kN   37.27kN   58.84kN	
      67km/h   0.00kN   0.00kN   0.00kN   35.31kN   58.84kN	
      68km/h   0.00kN   0.00kN   0.00kN   31.39kN   43.15kN	
      70km/h   0.00kN   0.00kN   0.00kN   28.44kN   43.15kN	
      72km/h   0.00kN   0.00kN   0.00kN   27.46kN   43.15kN	
      74km/h   0.00kN   0.00kN   0.00kN   23.54kN   43.15kN	
      75km/h   0.00kN   0.00kN   0.00kN   22.56kN   43.15kN	
      77km/h   0.00kN   0.00kN   0.00kN   22.56kN   43.15kN	
      78km/h   0.00kN   0.00kN   0.00kN   19.62kN   39.23kN	
      80km/h   0.00kN   0.00kN   0.00kN   18.64kN   37.27kN	
      82km/h   0.00kN   0.00kN   0.00kN   18.64kN   35.31kN	
      85km/h   0.00kN   0.00kN   0.00kN   15.70kN   31.38kN	
      90km/h   0.00kN   0.00kN   0.00kN   13.73kN   27.45kN	
      95km/h   0.00kN   0.00kN   0.00kN   11.77kN   23.54kN	
      100km/h   0.00kN   0.00kN   0.00kN   10.79kN   20.60kN	
      102km/h   0.00kN   0.00kN   0.00kN   9.81kN   19.62kN	
      120km/h   0.00kN   0.00kN   0.00kN   8.83kN   15.70kN	
      200km/h   0.00kN   0.00kN   0.00kN   0.00kN   0.00kN		
      )							
)

And with this Throttlecode:

		Throttle ( 0 1.00 0.25 0 
			NumNotches (
				5
				Notch ( 0.00 0 Dummy )
				Notch ( 0.25 Dummy )
				Notch ( 0.50 0 Dummy )
				Notch ( 0.75 0 Dummy )
				Notch ( 1.00 0 Dummy )			
			)
		)

In practice it is not realy what i was hope, becauze the ampérneedle go too high.

This is a Electric older EMU (1962), and have 2 Engined parts 770kW : 2 = 335kW
On every wheelbase they have 1 Axle engined, and 1 Axle not engined. ( 2 pieced EMU have in total 4 wheelbases = 8 axles )

Maybe the friction or adhesension is not right, or ORTSDriveWheelWeight ( 45t ) is not good value.

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