[Keilen]

Hello!
I would like to ask someone to clarify the error attached below. It occurs when the emergency brake is applied but the throttle is still on the acceleration gear. The locomotive goes into a skid and near the end of the stop (which is a slip) I get this error. Thank you!

``Error: System.ArithmeticException: Function does not accept floating point Not-a-Number values.
at System.Math.Sign(Single value)
at Orts.Simulation.RollingStocks.SubSystems.PowerTransmissions.Axle.GetAxleMotionVariation(Single axleSpeedMpS) in C:\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\Orts.Simulation\Simulation\RollingStocks\SubSystems\PowerTransmissions\Axle.cs:line 418
at Orts.Simulation.RollingStocks.SubSystems.PowerTransmissions.Axle.Integrate(Single elapsedClockSeconds) in C:\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\Orts.Simulation\Simulation\RollingStocks\SubSystems\PowerTransmissions\Axle.cs:line 465
at Orts.Simulation.RollingStocks.SubSystems.PowerTransmissions.Axle.Update(Single timeSpan) in C:\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\Orts.Simulation\Simulation\RollingStocks\SubSystems\PowerTransmissions\Axle.cs:line 532
at Orts.Simulation.RollingStocks.MSTSLocomotive.AdvancedAdhesion(Single elapsedClockSeconds) in C:\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\Orts.Simulation\Simulation\RollingStocks\MSTSLocomotive.cs:line 2675
at Orts.Simulation.RollingStocks.MSTSLocomotive.Update(Single elapsedClockSeconds) in C:\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\Orts.Simulation\Simulation\RollingStocks\MSTSLocomotive.cs:line 1946
at Orts.Simulation.RollingStocks.MSTSDieselLocomotive.Update(Single elapsedClockSeconds) in C:\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\Orts.Simulation\Simulation\RollingStocks\MSTSDieselLocomotive.cs:line 587
at Orts.Simulation.Physics.Train.physicsUpdate(Single elapsedClockSeconds) in C:\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\Orts.Simulation\Simulation\Physics\Train.cs:line 1960
at Orts.Simulation.Physics.Train.Update(Single elapsedClockSeconds, Boolean auxiliaryUpdate) in C:\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\Orts.Simulation\Simulation\Physics\Train.cs:line 1843
at Orts.Simulation.Simulator.Update(Single elapsedClockSeconds) in C:\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\Orts.Simulation\Simulation\Simulator.cs:line 838
at Orts.Viewer3D.Viewer.Update(RenderFrame frame, Single elapsedRealTime) in C:\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\RunActivity\Viewer3D\Viewer.cs:line 746
at Orts.Viewer3D.Processes.UpdaterProcess.Update() in C:\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\RunActivity\Viewer3D\Processes\UpdaterProcess.cs:line 132
at Orts.Viewer3D.Processes.UpdaterProcess.DoUpdate() in C:\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\RunActivity\Viewer3D\Processes\UpdaterProcess.cs:line 108
at Orts.Viewer3D.Processes.UpdaterProcess.UpdaterThread() in C:\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\RunActivity\Viewer3D\Processes\UpdaterProcess.cs:line 74
at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.RunInternal(ExecutionContext executionContext, ContextCallback callback, Object state, Boolean preserveSyncCtx)
at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.Run(ExecutionContext executionContext, ContextCallback callback, Object state, Boolean preserveSyncCtx)
at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.Run(ExecutionContext executionContext, ContextCallback callback, Object state)
at System.Threading.ThreadHelper.ThreadStart() ``

[engmod]

Hi Keilen,

We need a log file with the crash within to be able to see what is going on.

[Keilen]

engmod, on 11 November 2023 - 10:57 AM, said:

Hi Keilen,

We need a log file with the crash within to be able to see what is going on.

Hi,

I have attached the requested file.

Thank you!


P.S.

Sorry. I don't know why the attachment doesn't work so I'm posting it in full within this reply:

"This is a log file for Open Rails. Please include this file in bug reports.
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Loading TRK TDB SIGCFG

Warning: Skipped extra SignalAspect in F:\MSTS + OR\OpenRailsSimulator\ROUTES\New-Tutor-Route\sigcfg.dat:line 150

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Warning: Skipped extra SignalAspect in F:\MSTS + OR\OpenRailsSimulator\ROUTES\New-Tutor-Route\sigcfg.dat:line 150

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Information: Allocation for 87.500 particles:

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Information: Ignored missing overheadwire.ace, using default. You can copy the overheadwire.ace from OR's AddOns folder to F:\MSTS + OR\OpenRailsSimulator\ROUTES\New-Tutor-Route\Textures

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Warning: File SOUND\ missing from F:\MSTS + OR\OpenRailsSimulator\ROUTES\New-Tutor-Route

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Information: Game.ReplaceState(GameStateViewer3D) GameStateViewer3D

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Error: System.ArithmeticException: Function does not accept floating point Not-a-Number values.
at System.Math.Sign(Single value)
at Orts.Simulation.RollingStocks.SubSystems.PowerTransmissions.Axle.Integrate(Single elapsedClockSeconds) in C:\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\Orts.Simulation\Simulation\RollingStocks\SubSystems\PowerTransmissions\Axle.cs:line 463
at Orts.Simulation.RollingStocks.SubSystems.PowerTransmissions.Axle.Update(Single timeSpan) in C:\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\Orts.Simulation\Simulation\RollingStocks\SubSystems\PowerTransmissions\Axle.cs:line 532
at Orts.Simulation.RollingStocks.MSTSLocomotive.AdvancedAdhesion(Single elapsedClockSeconds) in C:\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\Orts.Simulation\Simulation\RollingStocks\MSTSLocomotive.cs:line 2675
at Orts.Simulation.RollingStocks.MSTSLocomotive.Update(Single elapsedClockSeconds) in C:\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\Orts.Simulation\Simulation\RollingStocks\MSTSLocomotive.cs:line 1946
at Orts.Simulation.RollingStocks.MSTSDieselLocomotive.Update(Single elapsedClockSeconds) in C:\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\Orts.Simulation\Simulation\RollingStocks\MSTSDieselLocomotive.cs:line 587
at Orts.Simulation.Physics.Train.physicsUpdate(Single elapsedClockSeconds) in C:\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\Orts.Simulation\Simulation\Physics\Train.cs:line 1960
at Orts.Simulation.Physics.Train.Update(Single elapsedClockSeconds, Boolean auxiliaryUpdate) in C:\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\Orts.Simulation\Simulation\Physics\Train.cs:line 1843
at Orts.Simulation.Simulator.Update(Single elapsedClockSeconds) in C:\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\Orts.Simulation\Simulation\Simulator.cs:line 838
at Orts.Viewer3D.Viewer.Update(RenderFrame frame, Single elapsedRealTime) in C:\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\RunActivity\Viewer3D\Viewer.cs:line 746
at Orts.Viewer3D.Processes.UpdaterProcess.Update() in C:\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\RunActivity\Viewer3D\Processes\UpdaterProcess.cs:line 132
at Orts.Viewer3D.Processes.UpdaterProcess.DoUpdate() in C:\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\RunActivity\Viewer3D\Processes\UpdaterProcess.cs:line 108
at Orts.Viewer3D.Processes.UpdaterProcess.UpdaterThread() in C:\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\RunActivity\Viewer3D\Processes\UpdaterProcess.cs:line 74
at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.RunInternal(ExecutionContext executionContext, ContextCallback callback, Object state, Boolean preserveSyncCtx)
at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.Run(ExecutionContext executionContext, ContextCallback callback, Object state, Boolean preserveSyncCtx)
at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.Run(ExecutionContext executionContext, ContextCallback callback, Object state)
at System.Threading.ThreadHelper.ThreadStart()


Information: Game.PopState() "

[engmod]

Could you also attach the consist and the eng file from the first engine please?

[Keilen]

engmod, on 12 November 2023 - 02:01 AM, said:

Could you also attach the consist and the eng file from the first engine please?

If it's not too much trouble, I prefer to send from the whole package I'm working on, the files corresponding to this model that I gave as an example for the appearance of the error. So I'll send it by private messaging.

Thanks!
Florian

[engmod]

Hi Florian,

This one is out of my league, I will have to leave it to someone else.

If you turn off advanced adhesion, does it still crash?

[Keilen]

Hello again !

So, thank you very much for your involvement and to answer the suggestion made, if I disable advanced adhesion I don't have this crash. So until (maybe) I figure out what I did wrong I'll leave the advanced adhesion box unchecked.

Sincerely, Florian

[engmod]

Now that we have isolated the issue, I am hoping the author of The advanced adhesion code will have a look at the crash.

[steamer_ctn]

Keilen, on 11 November 2023 - 07:13 AM, said:

I would like to ask someone to clarify the error attached below. It occurs when the emergency brake is applied but the throttle is still on the acceleration gear. The locomotive goes into a skid and near the end of the stop (which is a slip) I get this error. Thank you!

I can't see anything obvious at the moment at the lines indicated. I also can't see the problem with my test stock. To fault find this I will need to recreate the fault in my development environment.

Can you confirm whether you are able to get the NS CTN stock to produce the same error? If you can't, can you send me the ENG file that you are using, and describe the exact operations that are causing you issues.

Has this issue just happen in the last few days or has it been happening for a few weeks?

Just out of interest why do you want to have the throttle still open when applying Emergency Brakes?

[Keilen]

Thanks for your interest!
I honestly haven't downloaded the NS CTN to check if the error is occurring. I only ended up ``getting`` this error when, on the material I made/modified I received complaints from users that the stopping time is exaggerated, including in the emergency braking situation. For this reason I have modified the braking parameters according to the indications on ``Coals to Newcastle`` and since then this phenomenon appears. I suspect, that the braking force is much too high - I repeat this deliberately done to get stop times comparable to those in reality - but I did not expect the error I am talking about to occur. The fact that the locomotive slides in is basically the consequence of the inadequate brake force dosage from the brake tap opening, Why did I have the throttle still open? Time saving reasons. Wanting to eliminate the long loading - at first - and closing - at the end - times of the simulator and wanting to do as many tests as possible in a relatively short time with my various brake settings, I would directly apply the emergency brake and only then start reducing the throttle. The second reason was that - in my opinion - by still applying engine torque to the wheel, maybe the braking force was not enough to lead to wheel lock-up and therefore skidding.
These are just my theoretical considerations, so they may not be true. And ultimately even braking with the locomotive brakes at full throttle does this. If I dose the opening of the brake valve so that no slip occurs, the error does not occur. I would also say that I carry out these brake tests on a straight line, at the end of which the line is sunken. There is no deviation unless I stop at the end of the line and change direction, at which point I have the possibility to deviate to other open lines. Find this type of line section, I basically accelerate so that the locomotive catches up as quickly as possible with the speed of 100 km/h and then start braking to get into the buffers at the end of the line. I hope I have not bored you with this "long" presentation and I also provide you with the same material sent to Derek, if you have the kindness to study the phenomenon.
Yours sincerely,
Florian