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#2806 User is offline   Csantucci 

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Posted 12 January 2026 - 09:14 AM

Stijn, can you please test if this occurs also in the actual Unstable release?

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Posted 13 January 2026 - 08:35 AM

Also there is a bug that happens to me, when i press F6 " Show Station Labels ", the games Crashes

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Posted 13 January 2026 - 10:28 AM

This is probably not a bug, but a route that has a station (or platform) defined with a null (empty) string in the .w or .tdb file.

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Posted 14 January 2026 - 10:22 AM

View PostCsantucci, on 12 January 2026 - 09:14 AM, said:

Stijn, can you please test if this occurs also in the actual Unstable release?



Official OpenRails or ORNoWD?

If you mean Official Openrails:


Open.Rails.U2026.01.14-0052 => There is problem too.

Openrails 1.6 => There is problem too.


Also the problem animation of cabview needles & pointers.

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Posted 18 January 2026 - 04:44 AM

Stijn, what is the problem of the animation of cabview needles & pointers?

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Posted 18 January 2026 - 01:14 PM

Hello Carlo,


Look to this topic please (page 2) https://www.elvastow...mu/page__st__15


I write there about animation, but also about Total(Braking)Force cabcontrols too.



Otherwise i try to make a movie on last good rev. and on .rev170 NoWD. That can be give better view about the problem.



In case blending, on some trains i get more than 1kN dynamic brake force, but there is no bailoff.



Greetz,


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Posted 19 January 2026 - 06:12 AM

Hello,


I have more news about Blending problem.


On this commit the problem is there => https://github.com/C...81aa62ead2fe503 => 26/12/2025


On this last commit problem was not there => https://github.com/C...ce37fc2bf61c0a5 => 21/12/2025


In case Cabviewneedles i make some movies later on this day.


Greetz,


Stijn

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Posted 19 January 2026 - 06:50 AM

One thing I noticed is when resuming after a save, you cant bail off the loco brake. Before its no problem.

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Posted 20 January 2026 - 02:36 AM

View PostStijn D.C., on 11 January 2026 - 05:06 AM, said:

Hello,


Since rev 170. Blending works not properly anymore.

When i test with rev169. blending is working normal ( dynamicbrakeforce & bailoff )

On Rev170. i hear sound of dynamicbrake like config on .sms files.

But on HUD window i see that dynamicbrake make value's under 1kN, so not enough for make the bailoff of brakecylinders.

When i test dynmic brake with dynamicbrakelever, i get the normal dynmic brake forces. = There is a blendingproblem since rev170.


I have test with different trains, all tested trains have this on rev170.

Stijn,
I tried with the default Acela trainset. I see the same behaviour in ORNYMG 169.3 and in ORNYMG 170, that is there is a significant negative motive force when braking in the Force HUD. Maybe I'm missing something?

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Posted 20 January 2026 - 07:31 AM

Hello Carlo,


Yes, negative value on HUD window is there, but "bailoff" of brakecylinderpressure is the problem.

Normal you can see on the testmovies the blending problem too on rev163. there is perfect bailoff, on rev170 brakecylinders stay give pneumatic braking.

It is same locomotive, and use this Dynmacbrake config:



	BrakesEngineBrakeType 										( "EP_Brake" )
	BrakesTrainBrakeType 										( "EP" )
	BrakesEngineControllers 									( "Independent, Train, Hand, Dynamic, Blended" )



	Comment(-------- Frein électrique --------)

   	DynamicBrakesMaxAirBrakePressure 							( 4.0bar )
	DynamicBrakesMinUsableSpeed 								( 2m/s )
	DynamicBrakesMaximumEffectiveSpeed							( 49m/s )
	DynamicBrakesMaximumForce 									( 150kN )
	DynamicBrakesResistorCurrentLimit 							( 810A )
	DynamicBrakesCutInSpeed 									( 1m/s )
	DynamicBrakesMaxAirBrakePressure 							( 70 )
	DynamicBrakesFadingSpeed 									( 14m/s )
	DynamicBrakesDelayTimeBeforeEngaging 						( 0.5 )
	DynamicBrakesMaximumSpeedForFadeOut 						( 60m/s )
	DynamicBrakesEffectAtMaximumFadeOut 						( 0 )
	DynamicBrakesHigherSpeedCurveExponent						( 13.5 )
	DynamicBrakesLowerSpeedCurveExponent						( 0.9 )
	DynamicBrakesNumberOfControllerNotches 						( 10 )
	DynamicBrakeHasAutoBailOff 									( 1 )

	ORTSDynamicBrakesHasPartialBailOff							( 0 )
	ORTSDynamicBrakeHasAutoBailOff 								( 1 )
	ORTSDynamicBlendingOverride									( 1 )
	ORTSDynamicBlendingForceMatch								( 1 )
	ORTSDynamicBrakeReplacementWithEngineBrake					( 1 )
	ORTSDynamicBrakeReplacementWithEngineBrakeAtSpeed			( 20km/h)
				
	AutoBailOffOnRate											( 1.48bar/s )
				
        ORTSDynamicBrakeForceCurves (

               0.00 (
                    0km/h    0kN
                    160km/h  0kN
               )
               1.00 (
                    0km/h    0kN
					15km/h   0kN
                    38km/h   1kN
					39km/h   50kN	
					40km/h   70kN
                    42km/h   80kN
					44km/h   90kN
					45km/h   150kN
                    50km/h   150kN
                    55km/h   150kN
					75km/h   120kN
					85km/h   100kN
                    100km/h  75kN
                    150km/h  55kN
					160km/h  50kN
				)
		)




On 26/12 the code is changed with UIC brake changes i see, can this maybe the problem.


In this days there was different merges also.

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Posted 21 January 2026 - 01:44 AM

Stijn,
I'm not able to reproduce here the train brake bailoff problem here.
I attach here three alternative possible patches for ORNYMG 170. You can check if some of them solves the problem for you.
Attached File  Orts.Simulation1.zip (743.72K)
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Attached File  Orts.Simulation_Nopowerreduction.zip (1.15MB)
Number of downloads: 1
Attached File  Orts.Simulation3.zip (1.15MB)
Number of downloads: 1

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Posted 21 January 2026 - 01:38 PM

Hello Carlo,


I have test all 3, but there is no bailoff on it :-(


Also i have test with Acela, with blended and bailoff line on the .eng file.

Train brakes pneumatic & there is a small negative force of dynmicbrake.

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Posted 22 January 2026 - 08:17 AM

Hello,

I dont know what is happend with code, but today i saw that:


  	ORTSElectricTrainSupply (
    		Mode 										( Automatic )
  	)



Is not working anymore on rev170.

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Posted 22 January 2026 - 08:45 AM

See https://www.elvastow...g-ets-behaviour

To avoid diesel engines unnecessarily increasing their RPMs, in Automatic mode the ETS is only connected if there is a wagon fitted with a power supply

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Posted 22 January 2026 - 08:58 AM

I have this on electric locomotives.

With and without link to a PowerSupplyScript.

When i test with older rev .162, it works.

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