[FS.E652 091]

Thank You!! :-D

[hroch]

Good morning Mr. Csantucci

OR NY does not respect the boarding time of passengers after the command forms.

Route setting is 7 minutes.Download http://090-openrails.cz/stahovani/
 seting.jpg (741.34K)
Number of downloads: 8

The train is without the forms command. Passenger boarding is 2 minutes.
 n2min.jpg (788.03K)
Number of downloads: 8

The train is with the forms command. Passenger boarding is 7 minutes.
 ny7min.jpg (758.06K)
Number of downloads: 13

Today's unstable version works correctly.
The train is with the forms command. Passenger boarding is 2 minutes.
 ofik2min.jpg (773.3K)
Number of downloads: 7

My test time table.
 test_board.zip (5.44K)
Number of downloads: 8
vehicles
https://msts-ricar.w...ricke-jednotky/
https://pikku.msts.cz/files/CD810.rar

[pgs]

pgs, on 05 August 2025 - 01:59 AM, said:

Good morning.
I've been experiencing this error for a while on a specific part of a route.
It happens when I start at a certain point or when I approach the area.
Using Track Viewer or TSRE5, I have no problem seeing the area correctly, but when I start or stop, I get the error.
I read something about this topic and I think I did what was suggested to fix it, but I'm still having the problem.
I hope you can help me.
Best regards.

Attach LOG

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•  OpenRailsLog.txt (29.19K)
  Number of downloads: 9

[cesarbl]

This is a route error caused by a mistake that we did in the Openrails/sigcfg.dat file. It has been corrected for the V2.3N version, but you can fix it for V2.2N by increasing by 2 the numbers after SignalTypes( and SignalShapes( in the aforementioned sigcfg.dat file.

[pgs]

cesarbl, on 14 August 2025 - 12:30 AM, said:

This is a route error caused by a mistake that we did in the Openrails/sigcfg.dat file. It has been corrected for the V2.3N version, but you can fix it for V2.2N by increasing by 2 the numbers after SignalTypes( and SignalShapes( in the aforementioned sigcfg.dat file.

Good afternoon.
It's true that this doesn't happen to me in v2.3...
But I've been experiencing this error for a while now, when I pass over an ERTM beacon.


Error: System.FormatException: La cadena de entrada no tiene el formato correcto.
en System.Number.ParseDouble(String value, NumberStyles options, NumberFormatInfo numfmt)
en ORTS.Scripting.Script.ETCS.eval(String exp) en c:\users\-\desktop\open rails\cgl_v23n\trains\trainset\333.380continentalrail_or\script\..\..\common_tcs_spain\script\servertcs.cs:línea 1101
en ORTS.Scripting.Script.ETCS.eval(String exp) en c:\users\-\desktop\open rails\cgl_v23n\trains\trainset\333.380continentalrail_or\script\..\..\common_tcs_spain\script\servertcs.cs:línea 1110
en ORTS.Scripting.Script.ETCS.<>c__DisplayClass21_0.<fill_telegram>b__15(Match match) en c:\users\-\desktop\open rails\cgl_v23n\trains\trainset\333.380continentalrail_or\script\..\..\common_tcs_spain\script\servertcs.cs:línea 1076
en System.Text.RegularExpressions.RegexReplacement.Replace(MatchEvaluator evaluator, Regex regex, String input, Int32 count, Int32 startat)
en System.Text.RegularExpressions.Regex.Replace(String input, MatchEvaluator evaluator)
en System.Text.RegularExpressions.Regex.Replace(String input, String pattern, MatchEvaluator evaluator)
en ORTS.Scripting.Script.ETCS.fill_telegram(String tel) en c:\users\-\desktop\open rails\cgl_v23n\trains\trainset\333.380continentalrail_or\script\..\..\common_tcs_spain\script\servertcs.cs:línea 1074
en ORTS.Scripting.Script.ETCS.Update() en c:\users\-\desktop\open rails\cgl_v23n\trains\trainset\333.380continentalrail_or\script\..\..\common_tcs_spain\script\servertcs.cs:línea 985
en ORTS.Scripting.Script.ServerTCS.Update() en c:\users\-\desktop\open rails\cgl_v23n\trains\trainset\333.380continentalrail_or\script\..\..\common_tcs_spain\script\servertcs.cs:línea 240
en Orts.Simulation.RollingStocks.SubSystems.ScriptedTrainControlSystem.Update(Single elapsedClockSeconds) en C:\NoSistema\OR_officina\or_WORK\Git_ORTS_source_mio\Source\Orts.Simulation\Simulation\RollingStocks\SubSystems\TrainControlSystem.cs:línea 845
en Orts.Simulation.RollingStocks.MSTSLocomotive.Update(Single elapsedClockSeconds) en C:\NoSistema\OR_officina\or_WORK\Git_ORTS_source_mio\Source\Orts.Simulation\Simulation\RollingStocks\MSTSLocomotive.cs:línea 2186
en Orts.Simulation.RollingStocks.MSTSDieselLocomotive.Update(Single elapsedClockSeconds) en C:\NoSistema\OR_officina\or_WORK\Git_ORTS_source_mio\Source\Orts.Simulation\Simulation\RollingStocks\MSTSDieselLocomotive.cs:línea 585
en Orts.Simulation.Physics.Train.physicsUpdate(Single elapsedClockSeconds) en C:\NoSistema\OR_officina\or_WORK\Git_ORTS_source_mio\Source\Orts.Simulation\Simulation\Physics\Train.cs:línea 2072
en Orts.Simulation.Physics.Train.Update(Single elapsedClockSeconds, Boolean auxiliaryUpdate) en C:\NoSistema\OR_officina\or_WORK\Git_ORTS_source_mio\Source\Orts.Simulation\Simulation\Physics\Train.cs:línea 1953
en Orts.Simulation.Simulator.Update(Single elapsedClockSeconds) en C:\NoSistema\OR_officina\or_WORK\Git_ORTS_source_mio\Source\Orts.Simulation\Simulation\Simulator.cs:línea 951
en Orts.Viewer3D.Viewer.Update(RenderFrame frame, Single elapsedRealTime) en C:\NoSistema\OR_officina\or_WORK\Git_ORTS_source_mio\Source\RunActivity\Viewer3D\Viewer.cs:línea 862
en Orts.Viewer3D.Processes.GameStateViewer3D.Update(RenderFrame frame, Double totalRealSeconds) en C:\NoSistema\OR_officina\or_WORK\Git_ORTS_source_mio\Source\RunActivity\Viewer3D\Processes\GameStateViewer3D.cs:línea 118
en Orts.Viewer3D.Processes.UpdaterProcess.Update() en C:\NoSistema\OR_officina\or_WORK\Git_ORTS_source_mio\Source\RunActivity\Viewer3D\Processes\UpdaterProcess.cs:línea 131
en Orts.Viewer3D.Processes.UpdaterProcess.DoUpdate() en C:\NoSistema\OR_officina\or_WORK\Git_ORTS_source_mio\Source\RunActivity\Viewer3D\Processes\UpdaterProcess.cs:línea 108
en Orts.Viewer3D.Processes.UpdaterProcess.UpdaterThread() en C:\NoSistema\OR_officina\or_WORK\Git_ORTS_source_mio\Source\RunActivity\Viewer3D\Processes\UpdaterProcess.cs:línea 74
en System.Threading.ExecutionContext.RunInternal(ExecutionContext executionContext, ContextCallback callback, Object state, Boolean preserveSyncCtx)
en System.Threading.ExecutionContext.Run(ExecutionContext executionContext, ContextCallback callback, Object state, Boolean preserveSyncCtx)
en System.Threading.ExecutionContext.Run(ExecutionContext executionContext, ContextCallback callback, Object state)
en System.Threading.ThreadHelper.ThreadStart()


Information: Game.PopState()

The ASFA system is working correctly, but an error occurs when passing over an ERTMS system.
Thanksss

[FS.E652 091]

While running Open Rails MG Rev. 166.2, the program crashes during rendering with the following error:

System.ArgumentException: Failed to sort. The method IComparer.Compare() returned inconsistent results.

The stack trace points to Orts.Viewer3D.RenderItem+Comparer being used in RenderItemCollection.Sort() during the rendering phase (Viewer3D.RenderFrame.Sort() → UpdaterProcess.Update()), suggesting that the comparer implementation is not returning consistent comparison results for certain objects.

Why this seems like a program bug:

The error originates entirely inside the Open Rails MG code.

A robust comparer should handle edge cases (e.g., identical distances, NaN/Infinity values) without throwing an exception.

The crash likely occurs because the comparer returns contradictory results for the same input pair during sorting.

While certain models or assets may trigger the bug, the root cause is in the sorting logic, not in the user’s files.

Recommendation for the Developers:
Review and fix the RenderItem+Comparer implementation to ensure it always returns consistent comparison results, even with unusual or invalid data, to prevent sorting exceptions and crashes.

 Screenshot 2025-08-16 013317.jpg (109.59K)
Number of downloads: 1

[Csantucci]

hroch, on 11 August 2025 - 08:15 AM, said:

Good morning Mr. Csantucci

OR NY does not respect the boarding time of passengers after the command forms.

...

My test time table.
test_board.zip
vehicles
https://msts-ricar.w...ricke-jednotky/
https://pikku.msts.cz/files/CD810.rar

I tried to open your test timetable, but I'm not able to unzip the file.

[hroch]

I packaged it using the timetable editor. For me, the file unzips in winrar without any problems.
 test.jpg (98.97K)
Number of downloads: 1
I packaged it through Total commander. Hopefully it will work for you.

 TRAIN SIMULATOR.ZIP (6.13K)
Number of downloads: 6

[Csantucci]

OK, I'm able to correctly unpack it now.
Can you tell me if I have to download and install everything from the route's download page? I see that there is also a global. If this is not a mini-route, I wouldn't like to overwrite files in the Global folder.

[engmod]

engmod, on 23 July 2025 - 12:57 AM, said:

Hi Mauricio and Carlo,

I have just tested U2025.07.22-1911 and cam3 is broken?
At this point I have to question my method of testing, I don't think I am being able to test this bug reliably.

Hi Mauricio,

I have been doing much more testing. The log shows settings and activity.
Version is U2025.08.20-1853

Sequence and results:-

Set cam2 at car1, set cam3 at car 19 ( second car from end )

press F9 to open,
press F9 to close,
go back to train, car1 and car19 still selected,

press F9 to open,
select car13,
press F9 to close,
cam2 is reset to car0, cam3 is reset to car20.

I have done this 4 times.

I will repeat the sequence with another route and activity and post later.

Attached File(s)

•  OpenRailsLog.txt (18.63K)
  Number of downloads: 1

[engmod]

Hi Mauricio,

I have repeated the above with a different route and activity.
The results are the same.

The bug is in the select car event.

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A second bug,

I have an activity that has 2 engines, numbered 0 and 1,
I have to pick up an engine along the way, numbered 0,
the engine has to be blocked behind the 2 engines,
further down the track, I have to pick up some more cars,

when I select the third engine, and hit the uncouple, it uncouples the first engine as this is the first engine numbered zero.

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•  OpenRailsLog.txt (11.73K)
  Number of downloads: 0

[hroch]

Mr. Csantucci

Yes, all files must be downloaded, except UZK_v3.22_textures.zip. Second file from the top.
Install as a mini track. First put xtrack 3.22 in the GLOBAL folder, and then copy the UZK_v3.22.zip file, the first file from the top. Let everything be overwritten.
Unzip the files Cr_090_Main_1.zip, Cr_090_Main_2.zip, Cr_090_Main_3.zip, Cr_090_Main_4.zip, Cr_090_Update_1_03-03-25.zip, Cr_090_Update_2_14-05-25.zip into the ROUTES folder.
In the SOUND folder, the default SOUND folder should be enough.

The author entered the passenger boarding time of seven minutes. When the time is entered in TT in the format 12:00-12:02, the passenger boarding time should always be two minutes.
In my case in ORNY, after the forms command, it is set to seven minutes, which are entered in the route. I haven't tried the variant 12:00 stoptime=120.

[Csantucci]

OK,
I could reproduce the problem. Now I'll try to solve it, although I'm not a specialist of timetables.

[Csantucci]

hroch's problem should have been solved in ORNYMG 167.

[Csantucci]

Revision 167.1 of OR NewYear MG is available here http://www.interazio...loads/index.php
This unofficial version has been derived from the latest official Testing release T1.5.1-1993,
plus some of the features already present in the Unstable release.


This version includes some features not (yet) available in the Open Rails testing official version, that is:
- addition of track sounds in the sound debug window (by dennisat)
- F5 HUD scrolling (by mbm_or)
- checkbox in General Options tab to enable or disable watchdog
- increase of remote horn sound volume level
- when car is selected through the F9 window, the car's brake line in the extended brake HUD is highlighted in yellow (by mbm_or)
- improved distance management in roadcar camera
- signal script parser (by perpetualKid): reduces CPU time needed for signal management
- general options checkbox for optional run at 32 bit on Win64 (consumes less memory, recommended for computers with 4 GB RAM)
- panto commands and animations now swapped when in rear cab
- correction to reduce transfer flickering at short distance
- option to skip saving commands (reduces save time on long activities), see http://www.elvastowe...post__p__257687
- skip warning messages related to ruler token, that is introduced by TSRE5
- track gauge can be changed over the whole route, see http://www.elvastowe...ng-track-gauge/
- re-introduced advanced coupling, by steamer_ctn
- bug fix for https://bugs.launchp...or/+bug/1895391 Calculation of reversal point distance failing
- bug fix for http://www.elvastowe...-brakes-in-hud/
- bug fix for http://www.elvastowe...post__p__265463 , by mbm_OR
- tentative support for RAIN textures for objects, terrain and transfers
- dynamic terrain and scenery loading strategy (useful for slower computers)
- commands to selectively throw facing or trailing switches, see http://www.elvastowe...post__p__270291
- preliminary bug fix for http://www.elvastowe...timetable-mode/
- max fog distance increased to 300 km
- camera following detached wagons in hump yard operation by pressing Ctrl key while clicking with mouse on coupler in Train Operations Window to uncouple wagon
- bug fix that didn't check for null label text, see http://www.elvastowe...post__p__273496
- Various fixes related to reversals and couplings, see e.g. http://www.elvastowe...post__p__277369
- workaround for http://www.elvastowe...post__p__278074
- "ORNYMG only" option tab, including all option checkboxes available only in ORNYMG
- kept Locomotive() TCS script hook
- kept various options in ORNYMG only tab
- add PERCENT UoM to ORTS_SIGNED_TRACTION_TOTAL_BRAKING
- add cabview controls ODOMETER_UP and ODOMETER_DOWN
- fix crash when reinitializing EOTs on a carless train
- enable modifying and compiling the .fx shader files, see http://www.elvastowe...post__p__295571
- accept ORTSAirBrakeMainResVolume as .eng files token, used in some TrainSimulations routes (see https://www.trainsim...365#post2285365)
- Add curve force and brake cylinder pressure in sound debug window
- Sort of hack to fix http://www.elvastowe...rriages-emudmu/
- Re-instate and extend Precision and UpdateTime for SPEEDOMETER in cabvies, see http://www.elvastowe...post__p__300651
- (ORNYMG only?) bug https://www.elvastow...post__p__302120
- Tentative (ORNYMG only?) bug fix for https://www.elvastow...post__p__302440
- (signalling) No speed update parameter, by roeter, see https://www.elvastow...post__p__302320
- (timetables) Many options to define power related features, by roeter, see https://www.elvastow...post__p__293894
- Timetable: open/close doors on AI trains and some minor extra features, see https://www.elvastow...timetable-mode/
- Disable Polach adhesion, see here https://www.elvastow...post__p__305613 and following posts
- Fix for https://bugs.launchp...or/+bug/2057708 ORTSScreenPage parameter doesn't work for Dials
- Bug fix for https://www.elvastow...-for-no-reason/
- Fix 3Dcab digits alignment, see https://www.elvastow...post__p__307374
- Bug fix for https://www.elvastow...post__p__307975
- Workaround for https://www.elvastow...to-an-ai-train/
- Conditionally correct invalid values of TrainPipeLeakRate and Auxiliary Reservoir Volume
- Add slider to set wind variability in ORNYMG only options
- fix for https://www.elvastow...post__p__309405
- fix for https://www.elvastow...ch-on-platform/ (ORNYMG only?)
- Bug fix for https://www.elvastow...-a-new-service/
- Watch Mode for Timetable Mode, see https://www.elvastow...ost__p__313401-
- Multiplayer: now any diesel engine on/off sound change broadcasted, see https://www.elvastow...or-multiplayer/
- Fix for crash in wheelslip
- Hack to avoid exceptions in loading Trat321 shapes, see https://www.elvastow...trat-321-route/
- Fix for https://www.elvastow...-on-turntables/
- Re-instate panto management for steam locomotives, see https://www.elvastow...am-locomotives/
- Bug fix for trainset not shown if in .s file number of controllers set > 0 and controllers not present (Flirt package)
- Bug fix for https://www.elvastow...n-openrailsini/ Avoids crash when Map_mapResolutionUpDown = 0
- Bug fix for https://www.elvastow...-not-displayed/
- extended dump log, see https://www.elvastow...post__p__317895
- Fix for https://www.elvastow...mg-rev-161-163/ (can be solved also fixing the TrackShape)
- Bug fix for https://www.elvastow...orking-anymore/
- NEW: Fix for ORNYMG-only bug https://www.elvastow...post__p__320702
- features which are present in Unstable release or on Github but not yet in the publicly available testing release:
*- Added mouse wheel support for controls which can be moved by pressing the left mouse button, by sweiland (PR #919)
*- Add curve squeal to route, by steamer_CTN (PR #923)
*- Add Settings Exporter tool (copy settings to INI, etc), by rwf-rr (PR #1086)
*- Automatic speed control (Cruise Control) refactoring, by cesarBLG (PR #1091)
*- NEW: Handle simple adhesion within the axle module, by cesarBLG (PR #1104)
*- Do not activate ETS switch if no suitable cars are attached, by cesarBLG (PR #1115)
*- NEW: Automatically Calculate Friction Values if Missing, by steelfill (PR #1120)
*- NEW: Manually Override Articulation, by steelfill (PR #1121)
*- NEW: Wagon Size and Centering Controls, by steelfill (PR #1122)
*- Fix F9 points to an incorrect car ID, by mbm-OR (PR #1130)
*- NEW: Fix: Status in Work Orders popup set too fast, by sweiland (PR #1143)
*- NEW: Fix: Clean up multiple issues with data logger, by twpol (PR #1152)
*- NEW: Fix for illegal characters in reference to Shape file, by cjakeman (PR #1155)


Info about content of the various PR to the Unstable release can be found here
https://github.com/o...openrails/pulls

The Monogame related code intentionally coincides only partly with the code of the OR official testing version.

Instructions and additional files to use the AWS TCS are available here http://www.elvastowe...post__p__255510 .

Users having not more than 4 GB RAM are suggested to run selecting general options checkbox for optional run at 32 bit on Win64.

When running on Win64, the player can select if he prefers running at 64 bit or 32 bit. In this second case RunActivity32.exe is run, and only a maximum of 4 GB of RAM can be accessed by OR. If the computer has only 4 GB RAM, selecting the option to run at 32 bit on Win64 is recommended.
Note for developers: Runactivity32.exe is not generated by building the pack, but manually doing a copy of Runactivity.exe, renaming it Runactivity32.exe, and using on the Developer Command Prompt command corflags with the modifier -32BITPREF+

NOTE: See here http://www.elvastowe...mg-and-reshade/ for an installation guide of ReShade.

When running on Win64, if you are running OR at 64 bit (option not checked) you must point ReShade to OpenRails64.exe; if you are running OR at 32 bit (option checked) you must point ReShade to OpenRails.exe.

It is suggested to unpack the .zip using 7zip, if other unpackers lead to problems.

Revision 166.2 can still be downloaded from here http://www.interazio...loads/index.php (click on OR_NewYear_MG_oldrecent.zip) .