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Posted 08 October 2016 - 07:09 PM

View Postjovet, on 08 October 2016 - 11:46 AM, said:

As Goku has repeatedly pointed out, you are trying to use a signaling system that you do not understand. You are not placing signals correctly.

I told also that his signal config could be too complicated for TSRE now.

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Now onwards I am leaving this discussion regarding TSRE5...

If you really want the signals now, that is better :)

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Posted 11 October 2016 - 08:47 AM

View PostGoku, on 08 October 2016 - 07:09 PM, said:

I told also that his signal config could be too complicated for TSRE now.


If you really want the signals now, that is better :)


I know what is better or not...Ok...Also I adhere to the statement of rickloader. Addition of signals using TSRE5 disturbs .tdb and .rdb file as I have verified. You say that my signal system is complicated. Then you suggest me a simple signal system. There is nothing in saying that your route editor cannot handle complex signals. I once again inform you to suggest a 'simple' signal system.

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Posted 11 October 2016 - 08:48 AM

View Postjovet, on 08 October 2016 - 06:02 PM, said:

Yes, I see that now, so I apologize. I think the sudden jump to two pages threw me off. As for the multiple threads...

Are your Activity Editor problems solved now, or not? I presume Goku told you which signal(s) to delete.


Knowing how they work in real life is valuable, but that doesn't directly translate to how to setup the MSTS equivalent system. MSTS has several bugs when it comes to signals and in-game signal systems are naturally going to be designed to not be victim to those bugs. But if special caveats have to be observed in placement and use of MSTS signals, then one has to read the directions to know what those are. So the fact that you are having the Activity Editor lock up tells me you're doing something wrong.


Please think atleast twice before making a comment. There is nothing true in commenting upon others unnecessarily with out any substantial proof. I always adhere to my statements. Who told you that I am unaware of signalling system? Don't underestimate others. You are not supposed to evaluate others...

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Posted 11 October 2016 - 10:33 AM

View PostRohit R Krishnan, on 11 October 2016 - 08:47 AM, said:

I know what is better or not...Ok...Also I adhere to the statement of rickloader. Addition of signals using TSRE5 disturbs .tdb and .rdb file as I have verified. You say that my signal system is complicated. Then you suggest me a simple signal system.


Which signal package are you using Rohit? filename and where to get it please.

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Posted 11 October 2016 - 10:45 AM

View Postcopperpen, on 11 October 2016 - 10:33 AM, said:

Which signal package are you using Rohit? filename and where to get it please.


Sir...

I have messaged you the details...

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Posted 13 October 2016 - 08:03 AM

View Postrickloader, on 07 October 2016 - 04:13 AM, said:

Anyway to wrap things up, here is evidence
about my assertion that TSRE5 is saving animated subobjects to the tdb and causing problems.

Can you send me signal config with example of this type signals?

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Posted 02 February 2017 - 10:57 PM

The automatic signal pack which I am using seems to be inactive in OR when placed using TSRE5. In MSTS AE as well as in OR Track viewer, the signals (except that placed at the start of the route)remains vanished. On exploring the affected area with TSRE5, the signals are there as such but the red triangles are absent. Mr. Goku has pointed out about the present incompatability of the TSRE5 with the complex signal algorithm.

Hence please suggest me the best signal pack which works well in OR if placed using TSRE5. Also an examination of the issue is requested.

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Posted 03 February 2017 - 04:30 AM

A quick short test of these Indian Automatic signals. All signals that I placed using TSRE5 are visible and working.

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Posted 03 February 2017 - 09:41 AM

View PostRohit R Krishnan, on 02 February 2017 - 10:57 PM, said:

The automatic signal pack which I am using seems to be inactive in OR when placed using TSRE5. In MSTS AE as well as in OR Track viewer, the signals (except that placed at the start of the route)remains vanished. [...] Mr. Goku has pointed out about the present incompatability of the TSRE5 with the complex signal algorithm.

Maybe they was placed using old TSRE? Thanks to Jovet guide, and eugenR tests I think all signals work fine now. But signals placed using version < 0.650 has to be removed.

View PostRohit R Krishnan, on 02 February 2017 - 10:57 PM, said:

On exploring the affected area with TSRE5, the signals are there as such but the red triangles are absent.

If there is no red triangles, it means that the signals are broken.

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Posted 06 February 2017 - 11:29 PM

View PostGoku, on 03 February 2017 - 09:41 AM, said:

Thanks to Jovet guide, and eugenR tests I think all signals work fine now.

The one obvious thing I see to implement for signals yet is the optional shape Matrices. The first Matrix should (obviously) always be visible, but none of the others should be visible unless a SignalSubObject is turned on which calls for it to be made visible by name.

A similar thing happens to shapes with ESD_SubObj ( ) set in their .sd file. Only the first Matrix should be visible all the time. The other Matrices should only be visible when it's "night" time.

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Posted 07 February 2017 - 07:42 AM

Current TSRE shape code doesn't support enabling subobjects. It has nothing to do with signal code.

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Posted 11 February 2017 - 09:10 AM

View PostRohit R Krishnan, on 02 February 2017 - 10:57 PM, said:

The automatic signal pack which I am using seems to be inactive in OR when placed using TSRE5.

Your problems was probably not about signal functions, but "not sorted TrItemRefs" critical bug.
http://www.elvastowe...851#entry215851

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Posted 12 February 2017 - 10:42 PM

Ok...

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Posted 12 February 2017 - 10:44 PM

Fixed since 0.686

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Posted 12 February 2017 - 10:57 PM

:sign_thanks:

View PostGoku, on 12 February 2017 - 10:44 PM, said:

Fixed since 0.686
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