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Steam locomotive aux tenders Does the aux tender count in ORTS? Rate Topic: -----

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Posted 20 October 2015 - 05:07 PM

You left it out of the list.

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Posted 20 October 2015 - 06:58 PM

View PostSP 0-6-0, on 20 October 2015 - 05:07 PM, said:

You left it out of the list.

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No I didn't its in the list.

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Posted 21 October 2015 - 11:01 AM

Apologies.

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Posted 21 October 2015 - 02:01 PM

No problem. As for water tenders I think it would be neat to some how make it so when a water tender is hooked up it adds into account the extra water and also makes it so you can take water from the tank and add it to the tender.

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Posted 03 November 2015 - 01:28 PM

In #3298 functionality to support a water gin (as known in NSW (Australia) or an aux tender as known by others) has been added.

This function supports a single aux tender coupled directly behind the normal tender or locomotive. Like the normal tender, it only increases and decreases water volume. Wagon weight does not vary with water consumption.

As the aux tender and tender are connected together, the water levels will equalise between the two.

The aux tender will be refilled through the locomotive tender using the standard refill function.

To activate it, add the following line to the WAG file of a suitable wagon:

ORTSAuxTenderWaterMass ( 70000lb )	Comment ( Water capacity 7000 UK gallons)


The unit of measure are mass.

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Posted 03 November 2015 - 07:13 PM

Thank you.

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Posted 07 November 2015 - 01:39 AM

woooo hoooo now my 814 tender for the 819 will work :D Thank you so much!

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Posted 27 February 2016 - 11:51 PM

View PostSP 0-6-0, on 25 February 2016 - 06:05 PM, said:

I am still not happy with this at all. ORTS needs to be changed to have the is istenderrequired line used just like MSTS does. Uncouple the tender and the fuel goes to 0% in MSTS.

With any code change the first question that needs to be asked is, how much effort is required to implement the changes versus the benefit and amount of usage that a change brings to OR?

For example, a code change may not be warranted if the number of scenarios where the change can be used is minimal or infrequent.

So my first question is, what is the value of being able to uncouple the tender from the locomotive, and have fuel and water go to 0%? The locomotive would effectively be rendered "dead".

How often and how many players are likely to uncouple tenders and render locomotives unusable?

How often would more then one aux tender be added to the consist?

View PostSP 0-6-0, on 25 February 2016 - 06:05 PM, said:

IsTenderRequired(2)_Main engine tender and 1 aux water tender in the consist.

IsTenderRequired(3)_Main engine tender and 2 aux water tenders in the consist.

I believe that using this parameter in the ENG file will will effectively "hard code" the aux tender and will determine how many tenders are "permanently" coupled to the locomotive.

This will not allow the aux tender to be coupled or uncoupled to the locomotive. The current code allows for the aux tender to be coupled and uncoupled.

View PostSP 0-6-0, on 25 February 2016 - 06:05 PM, said:

Maybe in the future the weights and volumes can be placed in the wag files and actually reduce as water/fuel is used.

I agree that this functionality should be included, and unless another developer takes it onI will look at it at some time in the future as my other priorities allow.

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Posted 28 February 2016 - 10:04 AM

First, The idea is to have ORTS read the tender as the source of fuel for the steam locomotive that uses a tender. If no tender then no fuel. Ideally if the tender seperates at speed from the engine then one who is in charge of the boiler should dump the fire and shut down the boiler before it goes Bang!

Second, Here in the US several big steam locomotives have used more than one water tender. Union Pacific frequently uses two water tenders. With the 844, 3985, and with 4014 hopefully if she is restored.

C&O 614 used two water tenders in Jan 0f 85 on the ACE 3000 test trains in West Virginia.

Third, The water tenders usually are left attached most of the time to the locomotive tenders since there is several connections for water, air, electrical, communications with toolcar or support coach. It is too time consuming to have to seperate the water tender from the locomotive so it is avoided if possible.

My method is to hard code the tenders into ORTS and have the game engine read through the eng file how many tenders are required and what purpose they serve.

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Posted 28 February 2016 - 10:33 AM

What about tank engines?

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