[Whatever2006]

Santa Fe Railway GE C44-9W #666, the 'Devil' War Bonnet on Seligman.

https://i.imgur.com/lkb7ps3.png
https://i.imgur.com/VOYlxss.png
https://i.imgur.com/VWjgyyg.png

[Weter]

[jsmr]

Some Aussie B Class action.

[Weter]

Cool.
That's likely those very locos, Derek told about.
(2-cab Co-Co E analogs)

[BNSFfan]

Here's a pair of photos taken on the Shasta Route.

Photo 1: ex DRGW GP60 3156, now SP 3156, passes underneath Mt Shasta as it leads the eastbound LAPCX- The Pacific Coast Express, from Los Angeles north on its way to Portland. While the train is heading north Geographically, it is heading timetable east, since it is heading away from San Francisco. On the SP, all trains heading towards SF were considered westbound, away from SF was eastbound.


Photo 2: SP SD45R 7531 leads the westbound PTLAF, the Portland, OR to Los Angeles, CA Forwarder as it passes under Mt Shasta near the same area as the first photo on a different day.

[engmod]

>Some Aussie B Class action

Yes, they used to run in front of my childhood house.

[timmuir]

engmod, on 26 June 2025 - 02:01 PM, said:

>Some Aussie B Class action

Yes, they used to run in front of my childhood house.

Now, THAT would be cool. I love those double-ender streamliners.

[timmuir]

Showcasing Allen's superb Santa Fe 4000 Mikado (May of 2009), Northbound, making an appearance on the old AT&SF entry into Santa Monica, via Inglewood (now owned by Pacific Eclectic Ry.).



In PE's "Trolleyway", Southbound, passing Ocean Park.



Thanks.

[railguy]

BNSFfan, on 26 June 2025 - 01:41 PM, said:

Here's a pair of photos taken on the Shasta Route. Photo 1: ex DRGW GP60 3156, now SP 3156, passes underneath Mt Shasta as it leads the eastbound LAPCX- The Pacific Coast Express, from Los Angeles north on its way to Portland.

Just a point of order here: Regardless of ownership, DRGW 3156 would still be referred to as "DRGW 3156" in any Dispatcher communications, manifests, etc. because it contains no reporting mark that would identify it as anything else. And, DRGW, MP, CNW, WP, SP, MKT, CMO, etc. are all still valid reporting marks, even though all of them are now Union Pacific reporting marks. So, for example, a former Chicago & Northwestern hopper car still carrying a CNW reporting mark would be referred to as a CNW or Chicago & Northwestern car even though it has been owned by UP since the CNW was merged into the UP. Absent of a reporting mark, as the case with 3156 in the screenshot, it would be called out as what it appears to be, a D&RGW unit, even though it is owned by the SP in this "SP era" screenshot. Now, if it was stenciled with an "SP" reporting mark below the number on the cab, THEN it would be referred to as "SP 3156." The reasons for this are obvious. It is possible that there already was an SP 3156 on the SP roster. As a historical note, SP did very little "patching" (if any) of former D&RGW locomotives after the SP/D&RGW merger--if they did anything, it was usually a full repaint and renumber into SP livery. Mostly, though, the SP just left them as D&RGW locomotives. After the UP/SP merger, the UP got busy "patching" the former D&RGW locos, renumbering them into the UP number scheme. Taking this a bit farther, that is why the various "heritage" locos operated by UP, NS, CSX, etc. always have their respective reporting mark displayed on the locomotive--to remove any confusion.

In real world railfanning, it's lots of fun to study reporting marks to understand who actually owns what running on the rails. Private non-railroad car owners always have an "X" as the last character of the reporting mark, e.g. CITX. That is why the common carrier CSX Railroad's reporting mark is "CSXT", so that its equipment is not confused with a private car. One strange exception is TTX Corporation, it is a private car owning corporation, but the TTX company itself is owned by a consortium of railroads. Also, there are some shortline railroads that effectively operate as car leasing companies. An example from the SP era in the 1990's was the Central Of Tennessee Railway and Navigation Co. (reporting mark CTRN). At the time, it was owned by billionaire Philip Anschutz, the then owner of the SP. Then Central Of Tennessee Railway and Navigation Co. was 25 miles in length, but owned thousands of railcars, including mostly coal hoppers and grain hoppers. Those cars were included in the SP (Anschutz)/UP merger, and the CTRN reporting mark is now assigned to the UP and is still in regular use.

[Weter]

Hello.
For me - very useful info to learn. Thanks.
So NATX GATX and so on are from there.
Abs what first three letters mean then?

[BNSFfan]

railguy, on 28 June 2025 - 06:25 AM, said:

Just a point of order here: Regardless of ownership, DRGW 3156 would still be referred to as "DRGW 3156" in any Dispatcher communications, manifests, etc. because it contains no reporting mark that would identify it as anything else. And, DRGW, MP, CNW, WP, SP, MKT, CMO, etc. are all still valid reporting marks, even though all of them are now Union Pacific reporting marks. So, for example, a former Chicago & Northwestern hopper car still carrying a CNW reporting mark would be referred to as a CNW or Chicago & Northwestern car even though it has been owned by UP since the CNW was merged into the UP. Absent of a reporting mark, as the case with 3156 in the screenshot, it would be called out as what it appears to be, a D&RGW unit, even though it is owned by the SP in this "SP era" screenshot. Now, if it was stenciled with an "SP" reporting mark below the number on the cab, THEN it would be referred to as "SP 3156." The reasons for this are obvious. It is possible that there already was an SP 3156 on the SP roster. As a historical note, SP did very little "patching" (if any) of former D&RGW locomotives after the SP/D&RGW merger--if they did anything, it was usually a full repaint and renumber into SP livery. Mostly, though, the SP just left them as D&RGW locomotives. After the UP/SP merger, the UP got busy "patching" the former D&RGW locos, renumbering them into the UP number scheme. Taking this a bit farther, that is why the various "heritage" locos operated by UP, NS, CSX, etc. always have their respective reporting mark displayed on the locomotive--to remove any confusion.

In real world railfanning, it's lots of fun to study reporting marks to understand who actually owns what running on the rails. Private non-railroad car owners always have an "X" as the last character of the reporting mark, e.g. CITX. That is why the common carrier CSX Railroad's reporting mark is "CSXT", so that its equipment is not confused with a private car. One strange exception is TTX Corporation, it is a private car owning corporation, but the TTX company itself is owned by a consortium of railroads. Also, there are some shortline railroads that effectively operate as car leasing companies. An example from the SP era in the 1990's was the Central Of Tennessee Railway and Navigation Co. (reporting mark CTRN). At the time, it was owned by billionaire Philip Anschutz, the then owner of the SP. Then Central Of Tennessee Railway and Navigation Co. was 25 miles in length, but owned thousands of railcars, including mostly coal hoppers and grain hoppers. Those cars were included in the SP (Anschutz)/UP merger, and the CTRN reporting mark is now assigned to the UP and is still in regular use.

Funny enough, I actually knew that already. I just didn't think of it at the time when I uploaded the pictures.

[CrisGer]

that is a very nice Mikado by Allen and great pics from you Tim. Not often get to see big metal in a city street like that. is a fun juxstaposition. (sp?) fun and also love the details Railguy, very very inters4eting to know about reporting marks. thanks for sharing all of that

Chris

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Wetlands by Evgeniy Santo (Savelovo 2 route)