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Posted 01 November 2022 - 11:24 PM

Hello.

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Motor Volt


Hello.

To do this, you must first teach the OR the voltage and current. The first is not there now, the second is calculated from the torque. In the case of a DC series motor, the voltage gives the speed of the motor, the current gives the power. That is why the coils of the stationary part are blown out with a separate switch on some locomotives.
This would require a voltage difference between two steps and the number of steps. The voltage difference between stages is always the same.

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Posted 02 November 2022 - 06:43 AM

Traction motor's model - yes, it's indeed needed. Traction, ED braking and wheelslip would be more prototypical then.
Voltmeters:
Line voltage - kilovoltmeter
Diesel engine generator's voltage - voltmeter.
Traction cirquits - as in Your example.
Regenerated voltage - on demand
Battery voltmeter.

Ammeters:
What is "armature"?
Tractive circuits (kilo)ampermeters (one, two, or for each unit - i.e. 3-4)
Diesel engine generator's (load)meter
Battery dis/charge bipolar ampermeter
Field ampermeter(s) - on demand

EP braking gear have it's own electro-neasuring instruments

Coltrols

Series/parallel selector, which often combined with reverse (operated by removable handle) I.e. reverse/selection lever
Throttle/dynamic or field/dynamic combined lever

Current/traction force reference and speed reference handles are somehow involved by Carlo's work already.
AC or DC "controller +"/ "controller -" notch-up/notch-down, neutral lever or buttons are desired too.

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Posted 02 November 2022 - 06:58 AM

Hello, Laci!

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gives the speed of the motor, the current gives the power

I like a lot, how brief and clear and SIMPLE You've explained this complex thing!
But let me add, that the current is actually more consequence, than reason in case or locomotive's motor.
We control only voltage, applied to motors (by Thyristors, arrangement, transformer's output or diesel rpm controlling) usually.
Current is either not controlled, or controlled mostly automatically for correction purposes: I mean stator's shunting for field weakening, or altering generator's field by governor for more complete power transmission, according to generator's voltage (i.e. prime motor's rpm) and locomotive current speed, or wheel slipping (i.e. average, or individual tractive motor's rpm)

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That is why the coils of the stationary part are blown out with a separate switch on some locomotives.
This would require a voltage difference between two steps and the number of steps. The voltage difference between stages is always the same.

What do You mean? Translation gives no chances to catch :(

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Posted 02 November 2022 - 07:36 AM

View PostWeter, on 02 November 2022 - 06:43 AM, said:


What is "armature"?



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Posted 02 November 2022 - 07:36 AM

Hi.

View PostWeter, on 02 November 2022 - 06:58 AM, said:

What do You mean? Translation gives no chances to catch


0 noch = 0V
1 Notch = 50V
2 Notch = 100V
3 Notch = 150V
    ...
    ...
32 Notch = 1600V


I know that DC electric motors have a separate psyche, I always forget about that.
I thought so. This is also how our V43 series locomotive works. The main transformer has taps in 50 volt steps.

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Posted 02 November 2022 - 07:45 AM

Controller notches with equal voltage gradients between them?
But what was about stator's separate switches?
What is psyche? Soul?

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Posted 02 November 2022 - 08:43 AM

View PostWeter, on 02 November 2022 - 07:45 AM, said:

Controller notches with equal voltage gradients between them?
But what was about stator's separate switches?
What is psyche? Soul?

It was. It gave me strength. It could already be used from the 9th gear.
It was designed by four Western European factories for MÁV 50 years ago. Similar locomotives were designed for the Portuguese and Indian railways.

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Posted 02 November 2022 - 09:08 AM

G-translator seemed to be drunk today it helps just a little :)

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Posted 02 November 2022 - 09:12 AM

Again:

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That is why the coils of the stationary part are blown out with a separate switch on some locomotives.

Transformer's secondary (or primary on CZ-locos) coils sections, or DC motor's stator coils was meant?

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DC electric motors have a separate psyche

Complete puzzle for me.

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It could already be used from the 9th gear

What "it"?

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Posted 02 November 2022 - 09:31 AM

Maybe translate gear as Notch or Tap

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