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#1 User is offline   Frank Musick 

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Posted 13 January 2022 - 11:09 PM

The evolution of camels? Not really, just some fun with Blender.

Baltimore & Ohio No 199

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/db/50/92/db5092cff30e128b7b1ba8a1fc516a0e.jpg


Alleghheny Eastern SUSQUEHANNA

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/5d/1c/0d/5d1c0d4d8a88858aaba19a5ced9dd519.jpg


Lehigh & Atlantic TAMAQUA

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/dd/d4/b7/ddd4b7e8d3a7eee242daa4b50e79b673.jpg

TAMAQUA is as gussied up as a camel might get. Still one horrendous looking beast. The firemans canopy is probably not long enough. I think it should extend further forward.

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Posted 14 January 2022 - 03:33 PM

More...Sorry, can't help myself.

Pennsylvania Railroad SENECA. Although there was a real SENECA on the Pennsy, I believe she had a varnished wood cab. The only image I have is on the scrap line. She was converted to a 2-6-0 at some time in her career.
I made the sides so the windows open on this one. Forgot to add glass.

Gave her artwork a horse theme. Extended canopy on the tender might keep the sun off the fireman, Sure won't stop rain or snow.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/58/e4/35/58e4359139bdfdfb6323f151478f741e.jpg



Another Lehigh & Atlantic engine, LEHIGH. the L&A is my HO scale freelance railroad, the Allegheny Eastern is N scale. Both are now virtual, new real room for a layout in the new domicile.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/5a/59/a4/5a59a4d621d3da507698dd54abfbea91.jpg


I'll probably make some more variations.

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Posted 14 January 2022 - 03:47 PM

Those are strange beasts. Engineer gets a luxury location with heat and a view - not so much for the fireman :-_

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Posted 14 January 2022 - 06:54 PM

Glad you're having fun, Frank. That's what it should be! Are you going to make a B&O version with the headlight on the left of the stack?

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Posted 15 January 2022 - 10:58 AM

View Posttimmuir, on 14 January 2022 - 06:54 PM, said:

Glad you're having fun, Frank. That's what it should be! Are you going to make a B&O version with the headlight on the left of the stack?


Funny you should mention that just found that image today. You can barely see the headlight. Now that the automation is working well I can mess with rest of the loco as much as I need to. Gonna have to tweak 119 per drawings and photos and work on the valve gear again.


Because I'm making all the details in 3D 9thhanks to Open Rails) the textures are incredibly simple. Mere squares of color. You can texture a lot of parts using one square in Blender. You can also make a very detailed part from any shape. The pilot is all one cube, for example. The feed water pump is another. You can massage the faces, edges and points to different shapes.

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Posted 15 January 2022 - 09:20 PM

View Posttimmuir, on 14 January 2022 - 06:54 PM, said:

Glad you're having fun, Frank. That's what it should be! Are you going to make a B&O version with the headlight on the left of the stack?


Thanks for the inspiration. Probably not correct, but I tried.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/db/04/08/db04086a6aa026bf7e7011585000a9bc.jpg

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Posted 16 January 2022 - 06:00 PM

I changed SENECA quite a bit after I found an image of her rebuilt as a Mogul. Might could tone down the colors some

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b4/20/d8/b420d8c140ce6495b02cba328a69a20c.jpg.

Looks odd. Have to fill that gap with valve gear I think.

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Posted 16 January 2022 - 09:18 PM

When the Seneca was rebuilt in 1862, she got Stephenson valve gear, which required the removal of the 2nd pair of drivers. Later rebuilt Pennsy camels lost their boiler-top cabs and got more conventional houses on the back end. Also, they lost the Winans firebox, replaced with better designs.

Yeah, i'd desaturate that a wee bit Frank! Was this the right color?

Hey, love the left-handed headlight on the B&O 170. Seems weird but so were the camels. Are you going to make that cab-forward camel too, Frank?

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Posted 17 January 2022 - 05:55 AM

Wonderful beasts indeed! I'd suggest lightening that black to a very dark grey, it's currently just a black blob with no visible features.

I found this camel, quite the handsome thing with the peaked roof and diamond stack. :)
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b4/6a/29/b46a29e38085e0b2b6d7443492146e7e.jpg

The 170 with its lopsided headlamp:
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b4/fa/a8/b4faa81fee691bacea480e4d8300950f.jpg

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Posted 17 January 2022 - 08:21 AM

View Posttimmuir, on 16 January 2022 - 09:18 PM, said:

When the Seneca was rebuilt in 1862, she got Stephenson valve gear, which required the removal of the 2nd pair of drivers. Later rebuilt Pennsy camels lost their boiler-top cabs and got more conventional houses on the back end. Also, they lost the Winans firebox, replaced with better designs.

Yeah, i'd desaturate that a wee bit Frank! Was this the right color?

Hey, love the left-handed headlight on the B&O 170. Seems weird but so were the camels. Are you going to make that cab-forward camel too, Frank?


https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f2/05/28/f20528d3b0c027f1cc96b3ae868a2e02.jpg


Not sure what color she was. At first I though the cab was unpainted wood. This image, however, appears to shoe paint. I'm thinking it was actually black. I read a comment that the SENECA was an attempt to "modernize" a camel. I will try to change the firebox and add the Stephenson gear. I reworked the cab front quite a bit on this one. Youu can't see it but there were a lot of glitches. Also found out that there multiple copies of the connecting rods when I went to edit them. Not sure how I managed that.

Yes, II am planning to build CENTIPEDE. Probably cab forward and "conventional" (for a Winans) cab. Like SENECA it was easy to add the front wheel. THe animatio works fine , I think CENTIPEDE will only be a matter of stretching the front end. Have to see.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0b/Centipede_4-8-0.jpg/1280px-Centipede_4-8-0.jpg


One of the things I'm running into is the fact that no two of these beasties seem alike. It almost as if like each loco was a one off. On top of that every one seems to have been modified with no particular plan to standardize.

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