[steamer_ctn]

Laci1959, on 09 September 2021 - 10:37 PM, said:

1. There is no feedback on the slip. There is a lamp that should light up (WHEELSLIP MULTI_STATE_DISPLAY) and then speed (RPM) should also jump suddenly (RPM DIAL). This is not visible on the locomotive either. Then maybe it's not a mistake. You don't hear that characteristic sound either.

I have applied a patch so that wheelslip on the attached power car should now show up in the control car.

I am not sure what you mean about the sounds as wheel slip may not be heard in the control car depending upon its location compared to the power car.

Laci1959, on 09 September 2021 - 10:37 PM, said:

2. The ORTS_DIESEL_TEMPERATURE DIAL and the ORTS_OIL_PRESSURE DIAL do not work. This would be important information about the condition of the locomotive at the rear.

These should now work as well.

Please test and confirm.

[Laci1959]

Hello.

Thanks for the fixes, I'll try.
I thought of the control_error_buzz.wav sound.

https://kephost.net/p/2021/36/9885_bbb9dd815617.png

I do not agree with the change marked in the picture. We have a large air tank under the control car. The train has two air pipes along each car. The locomotive compressor fills the main air tank of the control carriage through the yellow air pipe. The red color applies the brakes. I think it's kind of crafted everywhere.
Now the automatic doors of the cars are also operated from the charging line (yellow).

	AirBrakesMainMaxAirPressure( 10bar )
	AirBrakesMainResVolume( 1200l )
	AirBrakesCompressorRestartPressure( -8.8bar )
	AirBrakesMainMinResAirPressure ( 7.6bar )
	AirBrakeMaxMainResPipePressure ( 5bar )

The control car worked well with the above code. The locomotive at the rear filled the main air tank of the control car. Of course, for this in the Wagon section a

BrakeSystemType ("Air_twin_pipe")

adjustment must be made in the control car and in all intermediate cars.
For the locomotive and the control wagon a

BrakesTrainBrakeType (Air_twin_pipe)

setting is also required in the Engine section.
On the train pushed by a steam locomotive, the characteristic sound of the air compressor could also be heard well on a shorter train. Unfortunately, there was no steam effect. Maybe one day it will.

[Weter]

Why MINUS 8.8 bar?

I would tell about our classic EMU arrangement:
As it was intended to place all large equipment under carriage's floor: for freeing as more space for passenger cabin as possible; and OTOH, for equalizing weights of motor and trailing cars-for better braking force distribution; air compressors and main reservoirs are attached to TRAILING CARS and HEAD cars (which have control cab at its end). Else, motor-generators for low-voltage circuits supply and battery charging are there.
So rheostats and their main controllers (switchers), batteries, power traction contractors, fast-acting switches, transformers are have enough space under motorized cars.

Two pipes are used:
- blue FEEDING MAGISTRAL, connecting all main reservoirs of train and compressed air consuming devices (brake valves, pneumo-brakes relays, door cylinders/air distributors, pneumo-propelled large contractors, wipers, etc.)
- red BRAKE MAGISTRAL.
So, it's air_single_pipe.
In absence of catenary, diesel locomotive like M62 can connect his blue and red-cocked hoses to EMU for feeding it with compressed air and control train brakes.
Yellow (ivory) is locomotive brake pipe here-it is used for repeating of auxiliary brake valve action on sectioned locomotives, for operating independent brakes of all sections from driving unit's cab.

[Laci1959]

Weter, on 11 September 2021 - 12:07 AM, said:

Why MINUS 8.8 bar?

It determines the direction of the air. I may not put it well. Here I read about it in one of the threads and tried it. As it has been proven ever since I use it in all control cars.
The control car has the same main air tank as the pusher locomotive. The BDat-300 has a capacity of 1200 liters. This is the same as the main air tank of the V43 series locomotive.

[steamer_ctn]

Lamplighter, on 07 September 2021 - 08:12 AM, said:

I discovered another error with the combined controller. When applying the brake (air is blended with dynamic) it is not possible to release the brakes.

Can you please confirm that the blended dynamic braking works ok, if you have a consist with the power car at the front of the train.

Please send me a copy of the CON file.

Thanks

[Laci1959]

Weter, on 11 September 2021 - 12:35 AM, said:

2x1200l per train! wow

Yes, but always use only the first in the direction of travel. Because it brakes with the associated brake valve.

[Weter]

What is the relation between using reservoir and brake valve?

So I ask Peter not to drop-off compressor and MR settings from control car's file code, please.
All 4 manometer needles are present IRL, so all 4 needed in ORTS:
MR/BP, ER*, BC needles.
_____
* not mandatory if EP is primary system of braking

[Laci1959]

https://kephost.net/p/2021/36/7069_447adf1e629e.png

https://kephost.net/p/2021/36/7426_62c29ca8a912.png


The image was taken with a January version (1.3.1-285-gbe02e15a1), these control cars have not yet been converted. In both images, the status of the second air compressor is " Be " = On.
I'm sorry, I forgot to change the language. I hope you understand.
I know a little Off, but for some reason the cabin view has such a wide black stripe. Where do I look for the bug?

[Laci1959]

Quote

Mi a kapcsolat a tartály és a fékszelep használata között?

The driver's brake valve in the control car (the one that grips and tightens when braking) is connected to the main air reservoir and the brake line. When the brake is released, it fills the brake line with air through the driver's brake valve (the one it grips and tightens when braking) with the air in the main air reservoir.
Ohh google translator, ohh lack of english language skills.

[Weter]

Reasonable.
We have 250l ballon under each of trailing cars and head cars, so it gives about 1000l for 10-car EMU train, being connected by MR(feeding) pipe.
Balaton? What is the first? Very nice!