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Posted 28 August 2021 - 02:34 AM

Hungarian route Balaton-Del v4 (south coast of Balaton railway line #30) have semi-hill for sorting wagons at Székesfehérvár station too.
http://users.atw.hu/...on/balaton.html
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Posted 28 August 2021 - 04:50 AM

View Postalifatico, on 28 August 2021 - 12:30 AM, said:

Could you tell me which route the video images belong to?

Thank you

It's the nice Rübelandbahn, that you can download from here
https://www.treinpun...a=view;down=546
or here
http://www.freeway-g...229c5085e7241f8

It requires a mini-route installation, and includes rolling stock and activities.

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Posted 28 August 2021 - 07:17 AM

View PostWeter, on 28 August 2021 - 02:34 AM, said:

Hungarian route Balaton-Del v4 (south coast of Balaton railway line #30) have semi-hill for sorting wagons at Székesfehérvár station too.
http://users.atw.hu/...on/balaton.html
Attachment SS.jpg
Correction:Inbound-Tranzit Park

Hello Weter
That rolling hill (we call it that) is not real. The track builder is not a railwayman, so he could not have known that there was a 50-thousandth slope from the top of the Hill to the switches. The switches lie on a slope of 15 per thousand. The directional tracks where the cars arrive are on an ascent of 2-3 per thousand. This is called a blocking slope by track professionals.
Thousands: 1000m: 1m slope or ascent. That is, at a length of 1000 meters, the level difference is 1 meter.
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Posted 28 August 2021 - 08:00 AM

View PostCsantucci, on 28 August 2021 - 04:50 AM, said:

It's the nice Rübelandbahn, that you can download from here
https://www.treinpun...a=view;down=546
or here
http://www.freeway-g...229c5085e7241f8

It requires a mini-route installation, and includes rolling stock and activities.


A lot of Thanks

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Posted 28 August 2021 - 11:15 AM

Hello, Laci!
We are trying to make center of station tracks below level of both bottle throats too.
That gives two benefits:
It keeps consist's buffers compressed, so it's easier for locomotive to start heavy trains;
And, of course, it prevents cars from escape from station tracks to stretch.

Then, please tell me about Gyekenies station: the slope there (at kihuzo towards Croatian border) is not real too?

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Posted 28 August 2021 - 12:09 PM

I don't have any Transdanubian (DDu, KDu, etc.) tracks, except for the Balaton Dél track. I think there is a lack of enough slope after the breaking point.

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Posted 28 August 2021 - 12:16 PM

I have Balaton-Del only too. KDU T5 refuses to run.
So I have seen that sloped kihuzo there.
Looks like semi-hill for rolling.

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Posted 22 October 2021 - 08:47 AM

A question Carlo.

When I release the car from the Hump Yard it is braked and does not descend.

Some solution ?

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Posted 22 October 2021 - 11:42 AM

It should be enough to fully release the train brakes, and then to close the angle cocks of all wagons using the Car Operations Window (in the Brake Information page the angle cocks must be all with the minus sign). When you have done this, you can start climbing the hump yard with your train.

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Posted 22 October 2021 - 12:40 PM

There are bleed-off valves operation strings at train operations window (called by F9)
This will open BCs to atmosphere, so brakes will be released for coasting after decoupling.
Just as in real-life operations at sorting hills.
Bur we have no wagon retarders, or speed managers with their brake-shoes at the downhill park, so cars will not be stopped on storing tracks.
Hence, cars will run away from park then.

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