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#241 User is offline   cjakeman 

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Posted 13 January 2022 - 11:55 AM

View PostWeter, on 13 January 2022 - 06:42 AM, said:

As more features enabled tend to increase bugs probability, I'd prefer to have disabled as many of not used options, as possible.
Again, for bug localizing, it's useful to turn options one by one to see, which of them causes this bug.

We started this thread by trying to rationalise and simplify the user interface, so removing redundant options is the way to go.
I don't agree with you about finding bugs by turning off options. The more options you have, the more places there are for bugs to hide.

Options are combinatorial. If you have 3 checkboxes, that's 2^3 = 8 separate paths through the code. For 10 checkboxes, that's 2^10 = 1024 paths through the code, so the numbers quickly get silly.

It's easier and faster to deliver reliable code if you have fewer options to consider and places for bugs to hide.

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Posted 13 January 2022 - 12:06 PM

We've looked at all the controls on the General Tab and I reckon there are 3 left - on the Main Form.

We have this one:

Attached Image: 2022-01-13 20_02_26-MS Excel with extensions - Options v02.xlsx.jpg

and the Manual reads:

Attached Image: 2022-01-13 20_02_42-MS Excel with extensions - Options v02.xlsx.jpg


Is this another checkbox we can lose? Can it be permanently enabled? Does it have any performance effects?

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Posted 14 January 2022 - 06:24 AM

Well, you just said very important thing.
Indeed, not being a programmist, I didn't think that way, and You seem to be right.
Playing with on-off is better suitable for unstable-debug mode then.


As about autosave: wasting a disk space, when registration is not needed.
I remember, engmod advised me to turn off some of logging functions, may be this?

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Posted 14 January 2022 - 10:49 AM

Another checkbox option on the main menu is Logging:

Attached Image: 2022-01-14 18_42_48-MS Excel with extensions - Options v02.xlsx.jpg

The text in the Manual:

Attached Image: 2022-01-14 18_43_09-MS Excel with extensions - Options v02.xlsx.jpg

and I don't see anything that needs improving.


However, I don't think the front page is the best place for this control. Perhaps it should be included in the same tab as the Data Logger:

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Posted 14 January 2022 - 11:03 PM

I think the opposite way: for the rason of quick access to turn on/off.

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Posted 15 January 2022 - 11:19 AM

View PostWeter, on 14 January 2022 - 11:03 PM, said:

I think the opposite way: for the reason of quick access to turn on/off.

I wonder if any one else frequently changes the state of this checkbox?

For me, it's always in the checked state.

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Posted 15 January 2022 - 11:35 AM

And now, at last, we have the final checkbox - Windowed - on the main menu:

Attached Image: 2022-01-15 19_26_52-MS Excel with extensions - Options v02.xlsx.jpg


and the Manual entry is:

Attached Image: 2022-01-15 19_27_03-MS Excel with extensions - Options v02.xlsx.jpg


Again, I don't think there are any changes needed in the text.

However, like the Logging checkbox, does it need to clutter the main form? I don't think it will be changed frequently, so it could be moved into an Options tab.

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Posted 15 January 2022 - 06:51 PM

More likely, than the previous one.
While that looks as an activity-running option, like weather, season, or time, this latter one can take place among video options.

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Posted 16 January 2022 - 02:39 AM

View PostWeter, on 15 January 2022 - 06:51 PM, said:

More likely, than the previous one.
While that looks as an activity-running option, like weather, season, or time, this latter one can take place among video options.


You will prefer the first page of settings.

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Posted 16 January 2022 - 03:30 AM

View Postcjakeman, on 15 January 2022 - 11:19 AM, said:

I wonder if any one else frequently changes the state of this checkbox?

For me, it's always in the checked state.


I change it quite often. I usually have it on when I'm driving for fun. But most time I have it turned of when I'm developing and testing rolling stock or capturing videos for youtube I will definetly have it off.

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