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#11 User is offline   Hobo 

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Posted 29 May 2021 - 08:34 AM

Hi Peter !
Your " Manual Braking " system in ORTS works with no problems that I've seen so far but the MG version does not recognize the " Manual Braking " . Maybe Carlo or yourself will see the difference in the 2 versions of OR . I'm not a programmer so I have no input in that category . My bad I'm afraid.

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Posted 29 May 2021 - 09:13 AM

Peter !

Disregard my last comments . I added handbrake to both engine and tender . Both Sims seem to agree with the changes now .


I think the biggest problem was my lack of communication with the engine and wagon files .

Sorry for the bother - - Thanx !
Rod .
TIM - - - the new files are on the way to you for your examination !


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Posted 29 May 2021 - 10:09 AM

If you run this engine in OR-MG Then I think you have to use rolling stock with the same type of brakes . I only found this out when I used varied rolling stock . ORTS doesn't seem to care and it will pull wagons with varied systems . Like I mentioned before - - - MG is a little bit more particular and more realistic .

Just a thought !
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Posted 29 May 2021 - 12:15 PM

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If you run this engine in OR-MG Then I think you have to use rolling stock with the same type of brakes . I only found this out when I used varied rolling stock . ORTS doesn't seem to care and it will pull wagons with varied systems . Like I mentioned before - - - MG is a little bit more particular and more realistic.


Actually, as long as a pressurized brake system in the car (or cars) can be bled off, the engine can do its thing. That so, then OR-MG is incorrect for North American railroading.

Just an observation.

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Posted 29 May 2021 - 03:14 PM

View PostHobo, on 29 May 2021 - 10:09 AM, said:

If you run this engine in OR-MG Then I think you have to use rolling stock with the same type of brakes

I would suggest that types of braking not be mixed in OR as this sometimes creates unusual results.

For an early era train such as you are describing, then perhaps there is no braking on the locomotive, the cars have no brakes, and there is a brakevan attached.

The Manual Braking option can model these types of scenarios, and the locomotive brake would operate independently of the brakevan brake. See this activity for a demonstration of a braking setup similar to this.

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Posted 30 May 2021 - 12:24 PM

<probably off top, but...>

During car shunting work or sorting, the brake pipe hoses are USUALLY disconnected from each other. Angle cocks are opened, as well as bleed-off valves. The braking is performed by brake shoes, manually putted on rails in front of moving unbraked car, by stationary car retarders, or by shunter's independent brakes, so such situation has to be normal in ORTS too.
In other words, if car's brakes are disengaged, it could be rolled by any locomotive, disregarding of brake system type: the system's type not influence movement, because auto brakes are turned off.

Is sorting by kicks used in other countries?

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Posted 01 June 2021 - 12:47 PM

View PostWeter, on 30 May 2021 - 12:24 PM, said:

Is sorting by kicks used in other countries?


I'm pretty sure kicking is illegal here, but humping is common practice (and not so different from kicking).

Cheers, Markus

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