[Sandy River Tom]

I have a Turntable serving a 3-Stall Enginehouse.
This is the normal starting condition; aligned to the TT Lead and Stall #2.


#1. When I rotate the TT CounterClockwise (Ctrl+C) to Stall #1, I get the message: "Information: Turntable Backward Connected"
I move the Loco from Stall #1 to the TT, rotate it Clockwise (Alt+C) to the TT Lead, and the Loco is Reversed; that is,
Switches in front are operated with "Shift-G", Switches behind are operated with "G", and Front/Rear Angle Cocks,
Air Hose, etc are reversed.

#2. When I rotate the TT Clockwise (Alt+C) to Stall #3, I get the message: "Information: Turntable Forward Connected"
I move the Loco from Stall #3 to the TT, rotate it CounterClockwise (Ctrl+C) to the TT Lead and the Loco is Normal; that is,
Switches in front are operated with "G", switches behind are operated with "Shift+G", and Front/Rear Angle Cocks,
Air Hose, etc are Normal.

It doesn't matter which Loco is used. Any Loco leaving Stall #1 gets Reversed, and any Loco leaving Stall #3 stays normal.

When Rotating the Turntable 360-degrees Clockwise OR CounterClockwise:
Stopping at Stall #1 or TT Lead always generates message: "Information: Turntable Backward Connected"
Stopping at Stall #2 or Stall #3 always generates message: "Information: Turntable Forward Connected"

To make it more interesting, earlier Revisions of the Route did not have this problem!

Any ideas from you ORTS Experts????

[Csantucci]

Which release of OR are you using? Are you in Explore mode?

[Sandy River Tom]

OR v1.3.4310.

Happens in Explore mode with any Loco, and for (1) Activity that starts in Stall #1.

[Csantucci]

I've tried with a turntable I have in a route, and I don't see that behavior; could you try with a more recent OR version, e.g. with the actual Testing version?

[jonas]

I've tested it with the current unstable version U2021.05.14-2236. The swapping of the G key function, so that after a TT rotation for the forward direction the Shift+G key has to be pressed instead of just G, is a problem of the 1.3 version I would think.

In the two pictures you can see a 180° rotated locomotive each. In the track behind the tender is the (only) switch.
You can see the OR version difference when note the differences of the F8 switch windows:
OR Version 1.3.1.4328 (G and Shift+G keys work wrong vice versa)

Current OR Version U2021.05.14-2236 (The G key works as expected)

That's what comes to my mind about the G-key swap problem in post #1.
...

[jonas]

... and also to post #1: Is it still necessary to distinguish between "Turntable Backward Connected" and "Turntable Forward Connected" and wouldn't it be enough to just show "Turntable Connected", Carlo?

One (at least me :-) don't know exactly where the front and the back of the turntable is anyway, isn't it?

Or asked again figuratively:
If this is the initial position of a turntable ...

... then here "Backward Connected" ...

... and here "Foreward Connected" is displayed.
But in both cases, the turntable is connected on both sides of the track. I suspect that this detailed information, whether the front or the back is connected, is from the time of creating the TT programming and for all I care it can still be displayed.

But wouldn't it be enough for the player to know that the TT is generally connected, whether front or rear? Only a question.

Edit: Alternatively, the info: "Foreward and Backward Connected" could be displayed when both track sides are connected.

[Csantucci]

Jonas,
thanks for your tests. Indeed there was a time when the turntables behaved like Tom describes. That was corrected, then it was inadvertedly reintroduced, then it was corrected again, and you confirm me that it works correctly now.
Yes, the wording "backward" and "forward", which have more an internal meaning, could be removed. But I don't think they disturb too much...

[Sandy River Tom]

I doesn't bother me that the Turntable displays "Forward" or "Backward";
those messages can remain.

Since this has been fixed before, can you give me instructions on how to fix it,
so that it connects forward to Stall #1?

[jonas]

 Csantucci, on 16 May 2021 - 11:03 PM, said:

Yes, the wording "backward" and "forward", which have more an internal meaning, could be removed. But I don't think they disturb too much...

It does not disturb.
But, at the risk I disturbing now :-), in this particular case I could change the German translation in both cases to simply "Turntable connected" (Drehscheibe verriegelt). Is there anything against it if the English and the German version are different in this case?

[Csantucci]

 jonas, on 17 May 2021 - 03:19 AM, said:

It does not disturb.
But, at the risk I disturbing now :-), in this particular case I could change the German translation in both cases to simply "Turntable connected" (Drehscheibe verriegelt). Is there anything against it if the English and the German version are different in this case?

I don't think it's so bad.