We went to the platform for the train's details observing:
The leading loco for the first part of the trip-CO17#508 is 1930-th era freight steamer. It's serie is from Sergo Ordzhonikidze-the historical person of the Great October Socialistic Revolution.
There were many modifications, including the condensation loco for desert service. As it was mass produced and served till 1955-th, there are many monuments of this loco across various railways. Many of them are reserved and serves till now for the steamer's crews training and making hystorical movies.
The further tender's details:
The second unit is C#207 the courier trains hauler built about 1910-th at Sormovo.
That settlement is a part of the Nizhniy Novgorod city and it famous by the plant, building steam ships for Volga shipping companies. It's name was noted in the steamer's serie by letter "C"
Her tender and her cab:
We are going to visit the CO's cab:
And... We are inside
The view of the monument and a luft-clozet type toilet.
Sav'olovo 2.0 The memories from late 80-th
#22
Posted 25 October 2020 - 02:08 AM
Overview of modern passenger carriage, carefully modeled by Replatek team.
The plazkart type of carriage were used for this train.
It equipped with bogies, allowing to travel at speed 160 km/h
The carriage's exterior. You can see the alternator and battery-box underneath.
The interior: note the absence of compartment doors. Two toilets and razor sockets.
Each compartment has two side seats and four main ones.(six seats if "common")
The upper shelfes. There are third shelves for mattresses above.
The table is a middle part of the lower side-shelf.
The service part is separated by the door. There are little stove and a cattle there.
The service corridor with coal boiler compartment at the left.
The conductor's compartment with wardrobe and a staff's kitchen.
Here the conductor can have a rest.
The service cab for carriage systems management.
The plazkart type of carriage were used for this train.
It equipped with bogies, allowing to travel at speed 160 km/h
The carriage's exterior. You can see the alternator and battery-box underneath.
The interior: note the absence of compartment doors. Two toilets and razor sockets.
Each compartment has two side seats and four main ones.(six seats if "common")
The upper shelfes. There are third shelves for mattresses above.
The table is a middle part of the lower side-shelf.
The service part is separated by the door. There are little stove and a cattle there.
The service corridor with coal boiler compartment at the left.
The conductor's compartment with wardrobe and a staff's kitchen.
Here the conductor can have a rest.
The service cab for carriage systems management.
#23
Posted 25 October 2020 - 09:39 AM
Interesting steam power... I always thought steam power from Central and Eastern Europe was the best looking out there. Are there still steam locos kept around to be used in case of emergency? I've heard they did in the Soviet era
#24
Posted 25 October 2020 - 10:09 AM
There are rolling stock reserve bases, where steamers were stored in conservation, but maybe many of them are scrapped for sell now... :(
Not every of such bases are so well guarded like this one, so the weather, the time and the thieves do their job. The mashines need periodical reconservation too.
So, that engineer was right: the monuments are usually in better condition.
At 1955 the Soviet government issued an "Order about railroad traction reconstruction": the State had need to eliminate the gap in development, caused by the WWII destructions.
The steam locos production was stopped, the diesel and electric locos production were accelerated: all steamer-building plants had to reorient to that modern locos instead of steamers. The original diesels for railroad application were designed only after 1960-th, so more early models were based mostly in american prototypes.
As well, the French and German electric locos were bought and investigated to use the most success solutions as soon as possible.
Working steamers were retired intensively, but that ones, wich were in good condition, could be conserved for case of post-nuclear era, or became a monuments, or left at some depots.
They say, there are some steamers, wich have US or UK sponsor, who initiates touristic trips from time to time.
(The Russian gauge is wider, than Stephenson's so that locos can't operate in Europe or USA.)
One of them likely were П36-the Victory class passenger steamer.
https://agtf.ru/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/IMG_2644sss.jpg
https://m.shipmodeling.ru/upload/iblock/3cf/3cff2d9fe4124bf1a9f0b54fecf53ee2.jpg
The C.68 engine was saved by enthusiasts, as it became the boiler at military base.
They asked for support from officials, appealing, that the loco of this type was used to move the train with Soviet government from Petrograd to Moscow at 1918, saving them from the civil war.
The article.
There's a book about it. (43mb windjview)
Not every of such bases are so well guarded like this one, so the weather, the time and the thieves do their job. The mashines need periodical reconservation too.
So, that engineer was right: the monuments are usually in better condition.
At 1955 the Soviet government issued an "Order about railroad traction reconstruction": the State had need to eliminate the gap in development, caused by the WWII destructions.
The steam locos production was stopped, the diesel and electric locos production were accelerated: all steamer-building plants had to reorient to that modern locos instead of steamers. The original diesels for railroad application were designed only after 1960-th, so more early models were based mostly in american prototypes.
As well, the French and German electric locos were bought and investigated to use the most success solutions as soon as possible.
Working steamers were retired intensively, but that ones, wich were in good condition, could be conserved for case of post-nuclear era, or became a monuments, or left at some depots.
They say, there are some steamers, wich have US or UK sponsor, who initiates touristic trips from time to time.
(The Russian gauge is wider, than Stephenson's so that locos can't operate in Europe or USA.)
One of them likely were П36-the Victory class passenger steamer.
https://agtf.ru/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/IMG_2644sss.jpg
https://m.shipmodeling.ru/upload/iblock/3cf/3cff2d9fe4124bf1a9f0b54fecf53ee2.jpg
The C.68 engine was saved by enthusiasts, as it became the boiler at military base.
They asked for support from officials, appealing, that the loco of this type was used to move the train with Soviet government from Petrograd to Moscow at 1918, saving them from the civil war.
The article.
There's a book about it. (43mb windjview)
#25
Posted 26 October 2020 - 01:15 PM
Story 4. The Master.
When Slava was a young man, he often travelled from Leningrad to Moscow by train.
One day, he noted the unusual smoothness in the train's movement.
When the train made stop at Bologoye station for about 20 minutes, he get out of the carriage and went to see the locomotive.
He was surprised very much, when he seen the steamer at the train's head: it was the middle of 70-th, so why the steamer hauls the mainline (the route from Leningrad to Moscow is the most main in the USSR) intercity train?- he wondered.
The answer was:
The very outstanding engineer, the Hero of WWII and furthermore, the Hero of Socialistic labor after war era became too old for learning new locomotives driving, but was quite healthy for keeping on working. After all, he remained the unsurpassed master of steam traction. So the railroad administration let him work with his steamer in mainline with less priority passenger trains. They kept a thread in traffic shedule for his trains.
The driving of steamer is so flexible: you can negotiate with this machine and it seems, it really has a soul.
When Slava was a young man, he often travelled from Leningrad to Moscow by train.
One day, he noted the unusual smoothness in the train's movement.
When the train made stop at Bologoye station for about 20 minutes, he get out of the carriage and went to see the locomotive.
He was surprised very much, when he seen the steamer at the train's head: it was the middle of 70-th, so why the steamer hauls the mainline (the route from Leningrad to Moscow is the most main in the USSR) intercity train?- he wondered.
The answer was:
The very outstanding engineer, the Hero of WWII and furthermore, the Hero of Socialistic labor after war era became too old for learning new locomotives driving, but was quite healthy for keeping on working. After all, he remained the unsurpassed master of steam traction. So the railroad administration let him work with his steamer in mainline with less priority passenger trains. They kept a thread in traffic shedule for his trains.
The driving of steamer is so flexible: you can negotiate with this machine and it seems, it really has a soul.
#26
Posted 28 October 2020 - 12:28 PM
When I saw your comment about 'track well fertilised with oil' my thoughts immediately jumped to TE10's and, sure enough, in the photos of the prototype which followed there were two 10's smoking gently!
#27
Posted 28 October 2020 - 12:44 PM
Yes, this "corner" of the Northern railway is populated with them:
http://www.pskovrail.ru/2011a/2te10v_4113_02042011.jpg
2ТЭ10M (modernized in compare with 2ТЭ10В and 2ТЭ10Л) used for freight service and
(2)ТЭ10у (universal freight/passenger modification) for regional passenger servise, sometimes in one section.
ТЭП70-mostly were the "guests" from Oktyabr'skaya railway, used to haul long-range intercity trains with only crew, but not a locomotive change along unelectrified part of the route, replacing ЧС2т electro-haulers where catenary-less line diverged from the Main Line at Bologoe. (the trains from Leningrad to Ufa, Kuybyshev, Yaroslavl')
30 years ago there could be seen ТЭП60 with local trains from Bologoe
Plus M62 or 2M62 along the Mologa line between Budogosch (wehre electrification ends~120km from Leningrad) and Savelovo (where it starts 125km before Moscow)
The switchers are used to recombine freight cars at Sonkovo park (yard).
When I visited Rybinsk last time-it was 2012-I saw new reworked 2ТЭ116(MК?) along the line and at Ryibinsk depot. So them gradually replace ТЭ10.
https://railtrain.pro/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/2TYE10V-4232.jpg
The specific of their fuel-system is that the fuel, penetrated to outside of hi-pressure pipes is wasting on the ground, mixed with oil and dust.
Another reason is a large amount of oil tankers in consists.
http://www.pskovrail.ru/2011a/2te10v_4113_02042011.jpg
2ТЭ10M (modernized in compare with 2ТЭ10В and 2ТЭ10Л) used for freight service and
(2)ТЭ10у (universal freight/passenger modification) for regional passenger servise, sometimes in one section.
ТЭП70-mostly were the "guests" from Oktyabr'skaya railway, used to haul long-range intercity trains with only crew, but not a locomotive change along unelectrified part of the route, replacing ЧС2т electro-haulers where catenary-less line diverged from the Main Line at Bologoe. (the trains from Leningrad to Ufa, Kuybyshev, Yaroslavl')
30 years ago there could be seen ТЭП60 with local trains from Bologoe
Plus M62 or 2M62 along the Mologa line between Budogosch (wehre electrification ends~120km from Leningrad) and Savelovo (where it starts 125km before Moscow)
The switchers are used to recombine freight cars at Sonkovo park (yard).
When I visited Rybinsk last time-it was 2012-I saw new reworked 2ТЭ116(MК?) along the line and at Ryibinsk depot. So them gradually replace ТЭ10.
https://railtrain.pro/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/2TYE10V-4232.jpg
The specific of their fuel-system is that the fuel, penetrated to outside of hi-pressure pipes is wasting on the ground, mixed with oil and dust.
Another reason is a large amount of oil tankers in consists.
#28
Posted 28 October 2020 - 03:55 PM
#29
Posted 03 January 2021 - 09:08 AM
Ride with freight train today
seing Savelovo station's building, an old watertower and buses.
The engine will be Luganka 2ТЭ10Л-1856 (Northern railroad, Vologda depot)
Now, here we go,
leaving Savelovo park.
Electrification ends at this point,
so we have 2x3000hp diesel to climb uphill.
40 full cars are not easy,
but we've done that.
seing Savelovo station's building, an old watertower and buses.
The engine will be Luganka 2ТЭ10Л-1856 (Northern railroad, Vologda depot)
Now, here we go,
leaving Savelovo park.
Electrification ends at this point,
so we have 2x3000hp diesel to climb uphill.
40 full cars are not easy,
but we've done that.
#30
Posted 03 January 2021 - 10:32 AM
Original shape TE10s! A few of these still seem to be used in Moldova but presumably they have been removed from service everywhere else?