[CoasterGreg2104]

roeter, on 25 May 2020 - 11:09 AM, said:

It looks to me that the problem is caused by the fact there is nothing between the two platforms - both are on the same 'track circuit section' - there is no signal or switch separating these platforms. As the basic check is that the train must be in the track circuit section in which the platform is located, this situation confuses the program in thinking that the train is already at the required platform.
I suppose this could be seen as a bug but I'm afraid I can no longer correct such issues as my own 'private' version now deviates so much from the various official versions that it's no longer possible for me to keep track of the official versions.

Regards,
Rob Roeterdink

That makes perfect sense. I still had no luck when I changed platform names. I will place an "invisible" signal and see what I can accomplish. Thanks again!

[Aldarion]

Hi.
I have a different question related to the dispose command.

I have the timetablelist_or like this:

#Portugal 79
#Passageiros
hv79_cartaz1.timetable_or
hv79_cartaz1a.timetable_or
hv79_cartaz11.timetable_or
hv79_cartaz13.timetable_or
hv79_cartaz13a.timetable_or

I want a train defined in hv79_cartaz13.timetable_or, to form a train defined in hv79_cartaz13a.timetable_or

Is it possible?
With what sintax?

[roeter]

$dispose hv79_cartaz13a:train

Regards,
Rob Roeterdink

[Aldarion]

Thanks roeter!

[Aldarion]

I'm getting a message in the logs stating:
Warning: Train : 2807:Tranvias Lisboa-Azambuja : Dispose details : formed train hv79_cartaz13a:2814 not found

On the dispose cell I have the following:
$forms=hv79_cartaz13a:2814 /runround=rr_carregado_1_3 /rrtime=06:55:00

Actually the log states that it's any formed train is not found.

[roeter]

As reference, you must use the timetable description (as defined within the timetable), not the filename. To make that easier, it's worth while considering having the filename the same as the description. For instance, the error is for train 2807 in timetable with description "Tranvias Lisboa-Azambuja".
If you want to reference this train from within another timetable (for whatever command - e.g. $dispose, $wait, $attach etc.), the reference would need to be :
Tranvias Lisboa-Azambuja:2807. The space in the description could be causing problems here. It would be better not to use spaces in the description.

Regards,
Rob Roeterdink

[Aldarion]

Ah...
much apreciated hint :)

[Aldarion]

I'm trying sticking to the filename different from the description. It helps me knowing the origin of the timetable in case I have to change something
However, I've changed description with no spaces (and no uppercase) but still not working:

Warning: Train : 2807:tranvias_lisboa-azambuja : Dispose details : formed train tranvias_azambuja-lisboa:2814 not found


Not working on this train, or any other train from the same rotation. And this is the only §dispose that needs the rround path. All other §dispose is just using the consist to change service/number on same track/platform.

[VicenteIR]

Did you check a definition of train 2814 in your Timetable?
In my experience those lines appears when I forget something or carelessly make changes to train definition. Especially when "copy/paste" method does used it have to take place.

Regards
Oleg

[Aldarion]

I thought of the same thing but I asure it is there. How can I asure it? what happens is that the 2807 train reaches the station platform and disapears and at the 2814's start time the consist appears in due platform.

Right now i'm trying
$forms=2814:tranvias_azambuja-lisboa /runround=rr_carregado_1_3 /rrtime=06:55:00
instead of
$forms=tranvias_azambuja-lisboa:2814 /runround=rr_carregado_1_3 /rrtime=06:55:00

oh, and I already tried Rob's sugestion to keep the descrition matching the file name - it did not work as well!
and the runround path is overlaping both the finishing and new train's path.

[Aldarion]

lol

with $forms=2814:tranvias_azambuja-lisboa the log registers the warning "not found"

with $forms=tranvias_azambuja-lisboa:2814 a warning is registered saying

Information: Train 2814:tranvias_azambuja-lisboa : detach to train : no units remaining on train

[VicenteIR]

Aldarion, on 04 July 2020 - 05:55 AM, said:

...what happens is that the 2807 train reaches the station platform and disapears and at the 2814's start time the consist appears in due platform...

You are talking about the same platform, of course? ;)

[Aldarion]

ah... no... different platform/tracks.... the consists shunts from one to the other via the runround path, no?

What im trying to do is: northbound train 2807 (an EMU) arrives at station on platform 1, then shunts to platform3 and departs platform 3 southbound as train 2814

[roeter]

In that case, you need 1 (or 2) ECS runs (ECS stands for Empty Coaching Stock, so that's a train without passengers).
So, for instance using 2 empty trains, 2807 forms into 2807E (empty), and runs from platform 1 to the shunt siding. There, it forms 2814E.
This 2814E then runs from the shunt siding to platform 3, where it will form 2814.
Train 2807E would be in the same timetable as 2807, and 2814E would be in the same timetable as 2814 - that keeps things clear.

The run-round command was intended for loco-hauled trains where the engine needs to run round the coaches.

Regards,
Rob Roeterdink

[Aldarion]

oh, I see Rob!

Is it at all advisable to make it with just one ECS?
And actually I am thinking on creating a timetable just for the ECS's and name 2807_to_2814, for example. What do you think?
I really want to keep the current
timetable_or files has they are cause they have 40 trains in each and this is just about half the suburban trains in the area... and i still have to make the long haul timetables...
since I'll have to make my own graphics and platform occupation schematics... i think that way will be more clean for me!