[darwins]

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With OR NewYear MG rev. 102 the support has been added for a target speed selector lever, independent from the throttle lever, and whose position is "proportional" to the target speed; therefore when the lever is at one end the set speed is zero, and at the other end it is the max speed of the loco.

This sounds like a fantastic development. Could it be adapted for a slow speed control? That is instead of going to the max speed of the loco to give something like this

https://i.imgur.com/p5Zb2Wg.png

Second question, would anyone want that in ORTS? Anyone out there seriously want to cruise a set of coal hoppers round a power station at 1 km/h?

I do look forward to trying the speed setter on a fast electric locomotive. :)

[Laci1959]

Hello.
There is a demand for it. A Siemens ES64U2 is under conversion. My colleague is doing the risk of cabview controls and feedback lights.
Laci 1959

[Ernst]

 Ernst, on 05 August 2021 - 06:51 AM, said:

Hi Carlo

At game start already throttle does not move with mouse and keyboard commands.

Have no notices about that problem by other persons or in other forums.

Seems to be only my problem.

Thank you for your continuous interest and help.

Ps: Downloaded several times the Etr500_Frecciarossa, but without any positive result.

Hi Carlo

As an hint, changing to a MSTS CabView and deactivating the OpenRails folder with the *.eng files...BINGO, the throtlle works and CC is not activated (but that is expected).
Probably something is wrong with the OpenRais *.eng or *.cvf files.
Please see also the OpenRailsLog.
Hope,that it was of help.
Thanks for you help.

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[Coolhand101]

 darwins, on 05 August 2021 - 08:38 AM, said:

Second question, would anyone want that in ORTS? Anyone out there seriously want to cruise a set of coal hoppers round a power station at 1 km/h?

I do this all the time with my makeshift S.S.C using the dynamic brake for this purpose. It can be set at 0.5, 1.0 and 2.7 mph.

Before, I was setting the coal loader/unloader speeds in R.E to 1 mph and let the autopilot achieve this speed!

Thanks

[Stijn D.C.]

Hello,


I'am looking for a way to have no dynamic brake if cruisecontrol reach target speed, or driver choose lower targetspeed.

This locomotive have dynamic brake, but only blended or on tractionlever ( manual mode)

Locomotive have a throttle that have speedsteps in combination with tenstionlever.

This Thtrottle must have speed 0 too.

For moment i use this commands:

		SpeedSelectorStepTimeSeconds ( 0.3 ) comment (** how fast the selected speed lever adds speed, 0.3 is one step in 0.3 seconds **)
		DynamicBrakeMaxForceAtSelectorStep ( 100 ) comment (** the brake will reach 100% at this step, the lower step the max brake percent will be also lower **)

		MaxForceSteps ( 14 )
		MaxForceSetSingleStep ( True )

		DefaultForceStep ( 1 )
		DisableZeroForceStep ( True  ) 

		ForceStepsThrottleTable ( " 21, 25, 35, 42, 49, 56, 60, 65, 70, 75, 80, 85, 95, 100" )

		NominalSpeedStep ( 10 ) comment (** when the control to add or lower selected speed, how many speed units should the selected speed change **)

		UseThrottle ( False ) comment (** recommended False for electric locos, true for diesel **)
		StartReducingSpeedDelta ( 0.5 ) (** the lower number, the sooner the regulator will decrease power **)

		ForceRegulatorAutoWhenNonZeroSpeedSelected ( False )
		ForceRegulatorAutoWhenNonZeroForceSelected ( True )
		ForceRegulatorAutoWhenNonZeroSpeedSelectedAndThrottleAtZero ( False )

		MaxForceKeepSelectedStepWhenManualModeSet ( True )

		ForceResetRequiredAfterBraking ( False )
		ForceResetIncludeDynamicBrake ( False )

		ResetForceAfterAnyBraking ( False )

		DynamicBrakeIsSelectedForceDependant ( False )

		Options ( "RegulatorManual, RegulatorAuto, SelectorOn, StartFromZero, EngageForceOnNonZeroSpeed" )

		ThrottleFullRangeIncreaseTimeSeconds ( 4 ) comment (** time in seconds needed for the regulator to reach 0-100% of power **)
		ThrottleFullRangeDecreaseTimeSeconds ( 4 ) comment (** time in seconds needed for the regulator to reach 100-0% of power **)

		DefaultForceStep ( 0 )

		DisableCruiseControlOnThrottleAndZeroSpeed ( False ) comment (** if train is stationary and throttle is increased and CC is still in auto, this will revert the mode to manual **)
		DisableCruiseControlOnThrottleAndZeroForce ( False ) comment (** if train is moving and throttle is increased and CC is still in auto and selected force is zero, this will revert the mode to manual **)
		DynamicBrakeCommandHasPriorityOverCruiseControl ( False )
		HasIndependentThrottleDynamicBrakeLever ( False )
		HasProportionalSpeedSelector ( True )
		DoComputeNumberOfAxles ( True )

		ZeroSelectedSpeedWhenPassingToThrottleMode ( True )

		UseThrottleAsForceSelector ( False )
		UseThrottleAsSpeedSelector ( True )

		AntiWheelSpinEquipped ( False )

		ContinuousSpeedIncreasing ( True ) 

[Ernst]

 Ernst, on 06 August 2021 - 01:12 PM, said:

Hi Carlo

As an hint, changing to a MSTS CabView and deactivating the OpenRails folder with the *.eng files...BINGO, the throtlle works and CC is not activated (but that is expected).
Probably something is wrong with the OpenRais *.eng or *.cvf files.
Please see also the OpenRailsLog.
Hope,that it was of help.
Thanks for you help.

Hi Carlo

Problem resolved:

Marking Disable TCS Scripts in Options-General.

Everything works now perfect.
Not very clear for me, but anyway.

[Csantucci]

Thanks for the update.
It's not very clear to me either. The TCS script and Cruise Control are both implemented in this train and should be able to work together and independently.

[Laci1959]

Hello
This "ForceStepsThrottleTable" is not in the CC_Parameters table. Could someone else be left out? What do you need to know about this?
Are the values one hundred times the values of Throttle (× 100)? If the regulation is continuous then you just have to leave it?

Sincerely, Laci 1959

[Csantucci]

Hi Laci,
I currently don't use that table in the Cruise Control configurations I'm setting up. If you are using a continuous and proportional relationship between selected max force step and throttle value, IMHO that table isn't needed.
As far as I can see from the code, that table is a list of ThrottlePercent values (therefore ranging from zero to 100), one for each max force step.

[Laci1959]

Hello.

Thanks for the reply. That confirms what I was thinking. We also have locomotives with stage switches, but they do not have CC.

Regards Laci 1959