[scottb613]

Hi Folks,

As discussed previously - I believe there is a known issue when attempting to use Track Viewer with Monogame on Win10x64 - it doesn't work...

In the past I maintained two separate instances of ORTS - just so I could use Track Viewer...

Now - since Monogame is included with the production (experimental) version of ORTS - I was just wondering what folks in a similar position are doing ?

I don't really want to keep switching my production version of ORTS - back and forth - redownloading all the files - every time I want to use Track Viewer...

Can I save just the files needed to run Track Viewer in XNA - save them somewhere else - then use that - or is the issue the fact that I have Monogame loaded ?

Do I need the entire ORTS XNA infrastructure to use Track Viewer - or just the Track Viewer executable ?

Any thoughts appreciated...

Thanks...

Regards,
Scott

[perpetualKid]

scottb613, on 05 October 2019 - 07:44 AM, said:

Hi Folks,

As discussed previously - I believe there is a known issue when attempting to use Track Viewer with Monogame on Win10x64 - it doesn't work...

In the past I maintained two separate instances of ORTS - just so I could use Track Viewer...

Now - since Monogame is included with the production (experimental) version of ORTS - I was just wondering what folks in a similar position are doing ?

I don't really want to keep switching my production version of ORTS - back and forth - redownloading all the files - every time I want to use Track Viewer...

Can I save just the files needed to run Track Viewer in XNA - save them somewhere else - then use that - or is the issue the fact that I have Monogame loaded ?

Do I need the entire ORTS XNA infrastructure to use Track Viewer - or just the Track Viewer executable ?

Any thoughts appreciated...

Thanks...

Regards,
Scott

what issues are you seeing? Trackviewer runs just fine for me, on different W10x64 systems as well other systems, both in the Unstable+Monogame version and my own experimental port.
Can you describe the issues, some screenshots or logs?

[scottb613]

perpetualKid, on 05 October 2019 - 10:57 AM, said:

what issues are you seeing? Trackviewer runs just fine for me, on different W10x64 systems as well other systems, both in the Unstable+Monogame version and my own experimental port.
Can you describe the issues, some screenshots or logs?

Hi Folks,

I thought we spoke of this a while back - as others reported having the issue and the developer responded he didn't have Win10 so he had no way of testing this for himself and therefore was unable to fix it...

It wasn't just me...

I've been searching but I can't find the post...

The very first indication is that you get artifacts in the menu system - as displayed below - the menu systems doesn't work smoothly and opens sporadically... Then once you do manage to get a route open - it crashes very briefly after that...

Happens with all routes...

I had none of these issues with the XNA version...

Thanks for your interest....


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Oh - here's the contents of the crash:

See the end of this message for details on invoking 
just-in-time (JIT) debugging instead of this dialog box.

************** Exception Text **************
SharpDX.SharpDXException: HRESULT: [0x887A0001], Module: [SharpDX.DXGI], ApiCode: [DXGI_ERROR_INVALID_CALL/InvalidCall], Message: The application made a call that is invalid. Either the parameters of the call or the state of some object was incorrect.
Enable the D3D debug layer in order to see details via debug messages.

   at SharpDX.Result.CheckError()
   at SharpDX.DXGI.SwapChain.ResizeBuffers(Int32 bufferCount, Int32 width, Int32 height, Format newFormat, SwapChainFlags swapChainFlags)
   at Microsoft.Xna.Framework.Graphics.GraphicsDevice.CreateSizeDependentResources()
   at Microsoft.Xna.Framework.Graphics.GraphicsDevice.Reset()
   at Microsoft.Xna.Framework.Graphics.GraphicsDevice.Reset(PresentationParameters presentationParameters)
   at Microsoft.Xna.Framework.GraphicsDeviceManager.ApplyChanges()
   at MonoGame.Framework.WinFormsGameWindow.UpdateBackBufferSize()
   at MonoGame.Framework.WinFormsGameWindow.OnResize(Object sender, EventArgs eventArgs)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.OnResize(EventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Form.OnResize(EventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.OnSizeChanged(EventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.UpdateBounds(Int32 x, Int32 y, Int32 width, Int32 height, Int32 clientWidth, Int32 clientHeight)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.UpdateBounds()
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.ScrollableControl.WndProc(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Form.WndProc(Message& m)
   at Microsoft.Xna.Framework.Windows.WinFormsGameForm.WndProc(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)


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************** JIT Debugging **************
To enable just-in-time (JIT) debugging, the .config file for this
application or computer (machine.config) must have the
jitDebugging value set in the system.windows.forms section.
The application must also be compiled with debugging
enabled.

For example:

<configuration>
    <system.windows.forms jitDebugging="true" />
</configuration>

When JIT debugging is enabled, any unhandled exception
will be sent to the JIT debugger registered on the computer
rather than be handled by this dialog box.

Regards,
Scott

[scottb613]

Hi Folks,

We've narrowed the true cause of the issue with Track Viewer down to ReShade - instead of Monogame or OS related - remove ReShade and Track Viewer works fine with Monogame...

If anyone needs help with a simple bat to make it easier to run Track Viewer with ReShade until someone provides a more elegant fix - the script below simply disables the ReShade dll - runs Track Viewer - then enables the ReShade dll when you close Track Viewer...

You need to create your own bat file from the contents below while modifying the 2nd line - “set orts_home” - to reflect your path to ORTS and it should work just fine... Your new bat file can be placed anywhere...

ORTS needs to be closed in order to use this...

Just double click on the bat file you create to launch Track Viewer...

@echo off
set orts_home=M:\Program Files (x86)\Open Rails\

set orts_reshade="%orts_home%dxgi.dll"
set orts_hold="%orts_home%HOLD\dxgi.dll"
set track_viewer="%orts_home%Contrib.TrackViewer.exe"

mkdir "%orts_home%HOLD"

move %orts_reshade% %orts_hold%

%track_viewer%

move %orts_hold% %orts_reshade%

Regards,
Scott

[Genma Saotome]

Would it be easier to simply make a copy of the OR installation, remove dxgi.dll, and use that install for track viewer (TV)? It's not like TV changes that often so the copy need not be updated before TV changes again.