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Posted 12 April 2018 - 05:28 AM

OR allows for manual weather changes, however there are some limitations.

1) If weather starts from the clear state, you can't gradually increase precipitation intensity to arrive to a rain state
2) If weather starts from the clear state, you can't directly pass to snow precipitation, neither abruptly nor gradually increasing precipitation intensity
3) If weather is in rain state, you can't gradually switch to snow state
4) If weather is in snow state, you can't switch to rain state, neither abruptly nor gradually.
I have prepared a patch for this. Here are the .exe and .dll file to replace within x.4109.
28/4/2018: attachment removed because feature committed.
With this small patch, even starting from a clear state, you can increase precipitation intensity with the already available key combination.
A new couple of keyboard commands has been introduced, that is Increase precipitation liquidity (Ctrl+Alt+=) and Decrease precipitation liquidity (Ctrl+Alt+-). These respectively allow for a gradual shift from snow to rain and from rain to snow. They can also be used with clear weather, so that when one gradually increases precipitation, this comes out of the desired type.
Trello card (to be voted) https://trello.com/c...-weather-change has been filed.
Blueprint https://blueprints.l...-weather-change has been filed.

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Posted 12 April 2018 - 06:11 AM

Hi Carlo !
This sure sounds very good to me . I'm looking forward to trying this - - it'll be great to go from a dull , drizzly day to something bright and cheerful .
Thank You Sir !

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Posted 12 April 2018 - 10:18 AM

It's a fine idea Carlo... can the commands be put into an activity too or they only manual?

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Posted 12 April 2018 - 10:33 AM

Thanks Hobo and Dave,
these commands are already available for activities as event parameters.

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Posted 12 April 2018 - 06:53 PM

Carlo, another question if I may... is the precipitation effect you want to roll out to end users wholly independent of which terrtex folder has been displayed? IOW, can we have falling snow without /snow terrtex being displayed or /snow terrtex displayed under clear skies??

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Posted 12 April 2018 - 11:05 PM

Hi Dave,
with my modifications I have removed some limitation, however already with the commands already available now it is possible, e.g., to fully remove overcast and still have rain falling or to have snow falling on summer terrtex.
What I can do is to add these two controls: precipitation intensity cannot risen above zero with fully clear sky, and vice-versa overcast cannot be brought down to zero when there is precipitation falling.
Instead I don't think to check about coherence between terrain and precipitations, because in reality you can have practically all combinations: you can have snow falling on green grass (and maybe immediately melting), as well as having clear sky with terrain covered by snow. It would be nice to have the possibility to have a gradual passing from uncovered terrain to terrain covered by snow, but this would require slowly intermixing the two terrtexes, which I don't think is an easy thing.

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Posted 13 April 2018 - 07:57 AM

I agree there should be a complete disconnect between which terrtex is displayed and the current weather. I was concerned about an old, unwanted KUJU feature that linked them together. Sounds like it is gone.

I had not thought of the other issue you raised... yeah, it probably makes sense to add those two limits you described.

Many thanks for all the good work you've contributed over the years! Nice to see you active now and then too.

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Posted 28 April 2018 - 07:10 AM

Feature implemented in x.4127.
Manual updated in x.4128.
No cross-checks have been implemented up to now between precipitation and overcast.

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Posted 28 April 2018 - 05:08 PM

Would it be possible to have dynamic weather for explorer mode?

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Posted 28 April 2018 - 10:52 PM

You can run in "Explore in activity mode" and have randomized dynamic weather.

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