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Modelling an FGA wagon Struggling to find appropiete reference material.

#1 User is offline   BenDragon1337 

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Posted 06 December 2017 - 11:31 AM

I'm trying to model a fictional FGA wagon.

https://i.imgur.com/NHB1uSO.png?1

But I'm having trouble with the coupling area behind the buffer beam.

https://i.imgur.com/ss4LcWi.png?1

The closest reference that I've been getting was this.

https://photos.smugmug.com/UKRailRollingstock/F/FFA-FGA-Freightliner-flats/i-NKf5JSF/0/a49bee34/X4/FGA_601403_York_07062016%20(73)-X4.jpgBut unfortunately, I can't find the lower part of the coupling.

I was wondering if you could try to solve my conundrum.

Sources:
https://gingespottin...OPSCode/FFAFGA/
https://ukrailwaypic...ghtliner-flats/

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Posted 06 December 2017 - 02:14 PM

Just use a "cover", a simple rectangular box to simulate a metal shape covering the spring mechanism. Remove underside surface, and two end surfaces because these are unseen. The "completed 3 rectangle shape is in the form of an upside-down U shape.

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Posted 06 December 2017 - 02:59 PM

I'm not sure what you mean by that. so just put a simple cover over the mechanism similar to what you see on the FBA or FSA wagons?

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Posted 06 December 2017 - 03:16 PM

Yes. Sometimes you have use your imagination a bit to fill in the details you cannot see. Also try a google search for the wagon, then click on "Images". You never know what will appear.

You have already found good images to help with texture and weathering detail.

Cheers Bazza.

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Posted 06 December 2017 - 03:43 PM

I guess, looking for images such as those is how I found all of those detail images.

I was looking for someone who may happen to know more about these wagons (such as working with them as these wagons tend to be used between the 1960s and 1990s) but I wasn't really sure on where to put it.

Google tends to retrieve fewer results than the sources that I've found in terms of detail pictures.

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Posted 06 December 2017 - 04:52 PM

Google is brilliant and frustrating, at times.

I had a very long search for a large plan of a 2.8.2 3ft gauge K36 steam loco. It took 10+ years!!

Cheers and good searching
Bazza.

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Posted 07 December 2017 - 12:44 AM

Don't be worried about winging it. You have the luxury of modellers license.

When I modelled this car I couldn't find a top view for love nor money. So I looked at top down views of similar wagons and came to a suitable compromise. It is almost certainly very inaccurate but the alternative was vapourware.
https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4565/24023058377_0e515d389a_o.jpg

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Posted 07 December 2017 - 02:03 AM

There is no "simulated manikin inspector, running back and forth, checking every nut and bolt and dimension. THANKFULLY.

CB.

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Posted 07 December 2017 - 02:17 AM

The bottom half is the same as the top but upside down.
A square bar connects to an enclosed spring box under the cross member.

The square bar forms the bar coupling at the other end.

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Posted 07 December 2017 - 02:42 AM

I guess I should wing it, thank you for your advice.

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View Postianmacmillan, on 07 December 2017 - 02:17 AM, said:

The bottom half is the same as the top but upside down.
A square bar connects to an enclosed spring box under the cross member.

The square bar forms the bar coupling at the other end.
Do you think you can provide a diagram?

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