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#1 User is offline   jdilworth 

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Posted 30 November 2017 - 06:18 AM

There is a bug with the air brake bail off with the most recent OR build. It's actually been like this for several builds, but I've chosen to reference the most recent one to keep it simple.

When bailing off, and any trailing and/or distributed power locomotives in the consist are not also bailing off, and they should be. At the moment, only the lead engine will bail off.

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Posted 30 November 2017 - 06:52 AM

Tsk, tsk. Sounds like the engineer didn't place the MU2A valves in trail. He's such a goober.

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Posted 30 November 2017 - 07:38 AM

I been getting that problem too on recent builds. Even while setting dynamic braking they don’t bail off unless you are moving for the dynamics to do their job.

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Posted 30 November 2017 - 08:01 AM

I'd be interested to know if this occurs also with stable release 1.2.

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Posted 30 November 2017 - 08:30 AM

View PostCsantucci, on 30 November 2017 - 08:01 AM, said:

I'd be interested to know if this occurs also with stable release 1.2.


I'll check when I get home, but I believe it does work in 1.2

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Posted 03 December 2017 - 02:03 PM

Yes, it has worked for quite a long time and was broken between X3962 (bail off worked) and X3967 (broken).
From the changelog >>> X3963 Bug fix for https://bugs.launchp...or/+bug/1725599 Locos not directly connected with player loco don't autobailoff .
It is still broken in X3994 see screenshots

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Posted 04 December 2017 - 12:31 AM

Gerry,
thanks for the check. Should all locomotives in the consist (also helpers in the middle or at the end of the train) be bailed off, or only the ones directly connected to the lead locomotive, with no wagons in between?

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Posted 04 December 2017 - 08:23 AM

Carlo, I hope you're not expecting an answer from me. I don't know, I'm still very much a piglet when it comes to railroad knowledge and operating procedures.
My best guess is that all MU'd locomotives, regardless of location in train, should work in concert with the lead locomotive.

I'll set up a consist to see how it worked with locos not physically coupled to the lead in OR V1.2, but that's not a guarantee that is was modeled correctly. That should be verified.

Thank you for the reply. Gerry

I tested in V1.2 and in the last unbroken version 3962, same result, only the locomotives physically coupled to the lead are controlled by the bail-off. Don't know if that is modeled correctly. Certainly it should revert to that, that will restore the status quo.

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Posted 04 December 2017 - 12:38 PM

Yes all engine brakes, player, helper, Distributed power should all bail off. If we start getting technical,depending on the era and location helper engine brakes may not even apply if not directly connected to the lead engine. I would imagine implementing this would have to wait until we can distinguish the difference between a helper and a distributed power consist.

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Posted 04 December 2017 - 11:24 PM

I've fixed it in x.3996 accordingly to Jared's advice, that is all locos in consist bail off (distributed power consist).

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