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Posted 27 January 2017 - 02:35 PM

Hi, I`m having trouble placing UKFS single and double slips with TSRE5. I can lay the main shape ok, but then the drop in switches have blue poles which remain after pressing "Z".
A train can`t cross the switch.
I can complete the slips OK in MSTS RE.
Could someone with UKFS please test this for me before I trouble Goku? Maybe I am doing something silly?
I`m using ukfs_xsdl2_20m5_9d46 and ukfs_xssr2_20m5_9d46
Drop in switches are ukfs_tsls_9d46 and ukfs_tsrs_9d46
TSRE5 0.668

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Posted 27 January 2017 - 02:42 PM

Can't find these shapes in my global tsection.dat ..

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Posted 27 January 2017 - 03:01 PM

Hi Goku! Do you have the later version of UKFS?(3.16). I think author Tim Booth was not happy with his original shapes and so he made a second series - xsdl2 etc. And tsls = short switches to replace the original tsl switches for the original main slip shape.
It is present in t section 41. Here is an entry.
_INFO(New 20m5 9.46° right double slip)
TrackShape ( 39587
FileName ( ukfs_xsdr2_20m5_9d46.s )
NumPaths ( 8 )
ClearanceDist ( 20 )
SectionIdx ( 1 0 0 4.500 0 38825 )
SectionIdx ( 1 -0.966 0 4.439 9.46 38827 )
SectionIdx ( 1 0.193 0 8.859 4.73 38823 )
SectionIdx ( 1 -0.418 0 8.910 4.73 38823 )
SectionIdx ( 1 0.0000 0 0 0 38500 )
SectionIdx ( 1 1.542 0 19.497 9.46 38500 )
SectionIdx ( 1 0.0000 0 19.483 0 38500 )
SectionIdx ( 1 -1.7065 0 0 9.46 38500 )
CrossoverShape ( )
XoverPts ( 1
XoverPt ( 0 0 10.2415 )
Thanks for looking at this for me

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Posted 27 January 2017 - 03:12 PM

Ok, I had wrong tsection.dat enabled.

Indeed there is something wrong:

http://i.imgur.com/5eyv86n.png

Question is if it is TSRE bug, or TrackShape bug. I think it may be second option, because MSTS allows for bigger "holes" between tracks. In TSRE it is set to 0.1 m.

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Posted 27 January 2017 - 03:21 PM

If connection distance is increased to 0.2 it works fine.

http://i.imgur.com/BhiD5Qp.png

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Posted 27 January 2017 - 03:28 PM

Thanks for your trouble Goku. I`m glad it is real : I was worried it might be my fault.
Going back into MSTS RE made me realize what a huge improvement TSRE5 is!
thanks, rick
edit: how do we increase the connection distance to 0.2? (posts crossed)

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Posted 27 January 2017 - 03:39 PM

To fix this, 0.669 has increased connection distance to 0.17m. Hope it won't make another issues.

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Posted 27 January 2017 - 04:28 PM

View Postrickloader, on 27 January 2017 - 03:28 PM, said:

edit: how do we increase the connection distance to 0.2? (posts crossed)

The value is hardcoded in TSRE sources, here:
https://github.com/G.../TRnode.cpp#L81

Just download new version 0.670. Works fine for me.

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Posted 27 January 2017 - 05:45 PM

OK, in V0.669 the 9d46 Single slips work ok, no blue poles.
the 9d46 double slip xsdr2_9d46 can`t be placed without overlapping existing track, and the switches don`t align. ( but I guess you found that!)

in 0.670 the 9d46 single slips work ok. no blue poles.
the 9d46 double slip main shape does connect to existing track : no overlap. The 2 switches at 1 end connect ok : no blue poles.
But at the other end of the double slip only 1 switch connects ok. The other switch is displaced away from the centre of the slip and shows a gap. Blue poles remain after "z".
Well, it is late now so I will test some more shapes tomorrow night. I need to find the UKFS 3.16 user manual in case I`m using the wrong shapes.
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Posted 27 January 2017 - 05:55 PM

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But at the other end of the double slip only 1 switch connects ok. The other switch is displaced away from the centre of the slip and shows a gap.

You need to place it this way:
- first place the big shape
- second place switches only to the red points. If you stick then to the middle points it will be broken, because two middle points are broken and shapes will be placed with gaps

http://i.imgur.com/1vigPxU.png

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