When in front cab with P you raise the panto which is at the opposite side of the driver. When in rear cab with P you raise the panto that is at the same side of the driver. So P is linked to the physical panto and not to the position of the driver. I think this is wrong, and have the intention to correct this.
When in rear cab wrong panto is raised
#2
Posted 17 June 2016 - 11:32 PM
Hello
When is flipped locomotive in con file, OR no change pantographs too.
When is flipped locomotive in con file, OR no change pantographs too.
#3
Posted 18 June 2016 - 12:36 AM
I have the change almost ready (also for flipped locos). In my opinion also the Pantographs line in the F5 Hud and the confirmation lines ("Pantograph 1 raised" etc.) should reflect the point of view of the train driver (as it is already with direction and reverser) and not the physical position of the panto.
#4
Posted 18 June 2016 - 01:33 AM
#5
Posted 18 June 2016 - 02:54 AM
However in my country there is at least one modern loco where the opposite is true, that is left switch raises the same panto in both cabs. So, what to do?
#6
Posted 18 June 2016 - 03:54 AM
The best solution is parameter in eng file. ORTSchangepantographs(1 or 0 ).
#8
Posted 18 June 2016 - 07:26 AM
In an electric loco, there is a number one panto, defined by the builder, and a number two.
In every cab there is a pushbutton-switch-valve, labeled number one that ALWAYS raises number one panto, disregarding of the position of the cab and of the loco.
In a model, there is a number one panto, defined using the appropiate keywords.
Then, "P" must raise-lower panto one, and "Ctrl-P" panto two.
But MSTS does wrong. Usually "P" raise the rear panto, and this can be wery wrong.
Say a 3000DC loco. Usually works the rear panto, that can be one or two, depending of the position of the loco.
But sometimes, perhaps in icing conditions, the driver raises also the front panto, sometimes electrically isolated, in order to clean up the wire.
Say a bi-tension loco, like the RENFE Alvia.
Say panto one is the 25000AC and panto two is the 1500DC.
In the depart statio, driver raises panto two ( in both locos ) and departs.
After say, two kilometers, entering the transition area, the drivers lowers panto two, both of them.
Then the train moves inertially for, perhaps 400meters.
The train leaves the transition area, and the driver raises the panto one, normally the one in the rear loco.
There is a wire, over the roofs, connecting both locos.
Resuming:
The driver must know all the time what to do.
And "P" must raise always panto1.
Regards.
In every cab there is a pushbutton-switch-valve, labeled number one that ALWAYS raises number one panto, disregarding of the position of the cab and of the loco.
In a model, there is a number one panto, defined using the appropiate keywords.
Then, "P" must raise-lower panto one, and "Ctrl-P" panto two.
But MSTS does wrong. Usually "P" raise the rear panto, and this can be wery wrong.
Say a 3000DC loco. Usually works the rear panto, that can be one or two, depending of the position of the loco.
But sometimes, perhaps in icing conditions, the driver raises also the front panto, sometimes electrically isolated, in order to clean up the wire.
Say a bi-tension loco, like the RENFE Alvia.
Say panto one is the 25000AC and panto two is the 1500DC.
In the depart statio, driver raises panto two ( in both locos ) and departs.
After say, two kilometers, entering the transition area, the drivers lowers panto two, both of them.
Then the train moves inertially for, perhaps 400meters.
The train leaves the transition area, and the driver raises the panto one, normally the one in the rear loco.
There is a wire, over the roofs, connecting both locos.
Resuming:
The driver must know all the time what to do.
And "P" must raise always panto1.
Regards.
#9
Posted 18 June 2016 - 08:40 AM
In MSTS
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If it was I would maintain this setting as it was in MSTS, 2 manifold locomotives
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If it was I would maintain this setting as it was in MSTS, 2 manifold locomotives
#10
Posted 18 June 2016 - 08:50 AM
multi-system locomotives
https://s26.postimg.org/j05zuwevp/Open_Rails_2016_06_18_06_45_20.png
If this could be in the future adjust. And to extend the operation of the pantograph dealt'd probably see the picture somehow.
https://s26.postimg.org/j05zuwevp/Open_Rails_2016_06_18_06_45_20.png
If this could be in the future adjust. And to extend the operation of the pantograph dealt'd probably see the picture somehow.