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#361 User is offline   Traindude 

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Posted 01 February 2023 - 05:43 PM

View Postxavivilla, on 01 February 2023 - 05:25 PM, said:

I keep saying the same as before, the problem is that A1t42mTurntable.s is declared twice with the same TrackShape, once in GLOBAL\tsection.dat and another in Openrails\tsection.dat
remove statement
TrackShape ( 24864
 FileName ( A1t42mTurntable.s )
NumPaths ( 3 )
 SectionIdx ( 1 0 1.175 0 0 24864 )
 SectionIdx ( 1 -21 1.175 21 90 24864 )
 SectionIdx ( 1 13.4895, 1.175, -4.9131 -40 24864 )
)

from your Openrails\tsection.dat file and try starting the route and if it doesn't crash try moving the turntable.


I did as you said and although ORTS no longer crashes, I'm unable to make the turntable turn. However, I tested the smaller (pre-existing) turntable (with a smaller locomotive of course) and it works fine, but THIS turntable (the A1t42mturntable) doesn't work.

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Posted 01 February 2023 - 06:09 PM

TrackShape ( 24864
 FileName ( A1t42mTurntable.s )
NumPaths ( 3 )
 SectionIdx ( 1 0 1.175 0 0 24864 )
 SectionIdx ( 1 -21 1.175 21 90 24864 )
 SectionIdx ( 1 13.4895, 1.175, -4.9131 -40 24864 )
)

Only now I see the commas in the last line. These are certainly not accepted by OR and maybe the reason for the crash.

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Posted 01 February 2023 - 06:26 PM

...look at the each last "SectionIdx" lines...as far as commas are concerned, the openrails/tsection.dat seems to be a pure spring of commas ;-). These commas must be deleted!

TrackShape ( 24864
 FileName ( A1t42mTurntable.s )
NumPaths ( 3 )
 SectionIdx ( 1 0 1.175 0 0 24864 )
 SectionIdx ( 1 -21 1.175 21 90 24864 )
 SectionIdx ( 1 13.4895, 1.175, -4.9131 -40 24864 )
)
TrackShape ( 40001
 FileName ( BBS-NSWGR-60ft-TT-open2_animate.s )
NumPaths ( 3 )
 SectionIdx ( 1 0 1.35 -9.300 0 37298 )
 SectionIdx ( 1 -9.300 1.35 0 90 37298 )
 SectionIdx ( 1 6.576, 1.35, -6.576 -45 37298 )
TrackShape ( 37298
 FileName ( BBS-NSWGR-60ft-TT-open2_animate.s )
NumPaths ( 3 )
 SectionIdx ( 1 0 1.35 -9.300 0 37298 )
 SectionIdx ( 1 -9.300 1.35 0 90 37298 )
 SectionIdx ( 1 6.576, 1.35, -6.576 -45 37298 )
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Posted 02 February 2023 - 04:39 PM

Well, after spending the past several days getting the new turntable to work, properly, I finally did it! Here's what I had to do:

1. Uninstall, then re-install, the CTN test route;
2. Place the A1t42mtturntable shape from the GLOBAL folder in the location on the route, and
3. Edit the route's turntables.dat file but not the route's tsection.dat.

So now, the turntable works perfectly. To prove it, here's my Challenger taking a spin on the new table.:


All I need to do is do some terrain editing around the pit and it'll be good to go.

Thanks a lot, guys!

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Posted 23 May 2023 - 05:56 AM

Hello!

I went through the 37 pages of the thread to see if my question was already solved but either I didn't see it or it's not answered.

It turns out that when I rotate the turntable, which it does, at the end the simulator closes and I get this message:

Attached Image: turntable_error.jpg

It is true that in order to do this, to fit a very large locomotive with its tender, I have increased the Diameter from 27m to 30m.

Also that it has worked suddenly, because my question was going to be about why, even having the reverser and the power at 0, I got a message asking for a mode change to turn the turntable, despite being in Explorer mode...

Any idea? I would like to make a video on that route, with that locomotive, but it's not being easy at all...

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Posted 23 May 2023 - 07:35 AM

Have you used the 27m turntable or have you generated a 30m turntable shape together with the specific related tsection.dat entry?

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Posted 24 May 2023 - 05:42 AM

View PostCsantucci, on 23 May 2023 - 07:35 AM, said:

Have you used the 27m turntable or have you generated a 30m turntable shape together with the specific related tsection.dat entry?


Yes, it is the same 27m turntable. I just changed the Diameter line from 27m to 30m in the turntables.dat file.

The interesting thing is that, at least within one Activity, it has worked without problem, without shutting down the simulator. In fact, yesterday I posted a video about the steam locomotives I am developing now. In the final part of the video, you can see these locomotives on one of the original 27m turntables customized to 30m:



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Posted 24 May 2023 - 08:31 AM

If you are using the 27m turntable, the diameter has to be set to 27m. If you set it to 30m, malfunctions can occur.

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Posted 24 May 2023 - 09:23 AM

View PostCsantucci, on 24 May 2023 - 08:31 AM, said:

If you are using the 27m turntable, the diameter has to be set to 27m. If you set it to 30m, malfunctions can occur.

That's strange because I've set min 27m turntable to 30+ meters in the turntable.dat of many of the routes I've modified to use them, and so far I've never experienced any issues doing it this way?

From a turntable.dat I installed in the MARIAS-KOOTENAI route, for the turntable at Whitefish.
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Turntable(
WFile ( "w-012584+014768.w" )
UiD ( 51190 )
XOffset ( 0 )
ZOffset ( 10.5 )
TrackShapeIndex ( 253 )
Animation ( "TRACKPIECE" )
Diameter ( 34 )
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Posted 24 May 2023 - 10:34 AM

Hello.

In reality, there were/are turntables from which the front and back of the locomotive hung off while turning. The Budapest Children's Railway also has a turntable on which the cars are turned. The cars hang about a meter from it.
I am making a model of this turntable. I already thought about this solution.

Sincerely, Laci1959

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