SPAD
#1
Posted 23 May 2015 - 04:56 AM
In MSTS this causes the termination of an Activity. In Open Rails it does not. Is there any reason for this incompatibility?
#2
Posted 23 May 2015 - 05:00 AM
#3
Posted 23 May 2015 - 05:00 AM
#4
Posted 23 May 2015 - 05:07 AM
Edit: saw only after committing the post tha someone else preceded me in the answer.
#5
Posted 23 May 2015 - 05:09 AM
James Ross, on 23 May 2015 - 05:00 AM, said:
Understood James, but often a signal at danger is used to hold a player consist until the path ahead is clear for it to proceed, when the signal will have changed.
#6
Posted 23 May 2015 - 08:46 AM
dforrest, on 23 May 2015 - 05:09 AM, said:
I don't see how this is relevant. Passing any signal at danger is bad but it should not be activity-ending bad. It may be tricky to know when it's safe to proceed after you've done it, I guess, but that's a real-life problem too. The track monitor will show points set against you (as end of authority I think) and trains ahead of you, so it should be survivable.
#7
Posted 23 May 2015 - 09:16 AM
#8
Posted 23 May 2015 - 09:37 AM
If you've fallen asleep (which I sometimes have) and wake to find your train in a field somewhere then you've really no choice but to go back to the previous save!
Dennis
#9
Posted 23 May 2015 - 11:45 AM
James Ross, on 23 May 2015 - 08:46 AM, said:
In Victoria, Australia, if a driver does a SPAD he/she is NOT ALLOWED to move at all (Note 1) until given clearance by the controlers, may be it could be arrainged in OR that if one does a SPAD it is required to hit the request to proceed key (I thinks it the tab key) BEFORE one can move at all.
Note 1: You are PARTICULARLY NOT allowed to back up as they may be another service immediately behind you. This (backing up after a SPAD) is an immediate sacking offence.
Note 2: In some circumstances a driver is allowed to pass a signal at danger but the driver is extremely restricted on what he/she can do, Note these rules differ between states even within Australia.
For instance in Victoria on the Melbourne Metro network one is allowed to pass a SAD (signal at danger) as long as you proceed slowly and can stop quickly, in ARTC controlled railways (federal governmnet railways) you are I believe not allowed to proceed past a SAD at all with out writen authority.
Lindsay
#10
Posted 23 May 2015 - 03:13 PM
dforrest, on 23 May 2015 - 09:16 AM, said:
I'm curious as to how you determine the activity authors 'intent' other than the obvious intent for a user to complete the activity?
For the record I regard the 'dump-you-from-the-Sim' as really silly, right up there with the same thing if you don't whistle for a grade crossing with it's properties set with a collision possibility. That's just nuts!
It's a simulation and throwing you out is not real world operation.
The general OR rule is good. Emergency set and you have to go through a procedure to recover.:ireful2:
best,
vince